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Re:How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block by einpoklum on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:36PM (#27452875)
If the sane price is an optional "Donate to keep this site going" link, then ok. But only free access, without authentication or payment, to scientific papers, is sane. IMHO.
Re:How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block by munk-a on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @04:43PM (#27452973)
Might this be a case where the best resolution would be to have the government (which is at least partially funding nearly all of these papers) step in and add a ledger of papers as a proof of investment?

The cost of maintaining a free and open DB of scientific advances and publications would be so incredibly insignificant compared to both the value and the continued investment in those advancements.

Re:How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block by jpeloquin on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @10:02PM (#27455908)
> Might this be a case where the best resolution would be to have the government (which is at least partially funding nearly all of these papers) step in and add a ledger of papers as a proof of investment?

I feel that we're halfway there already and are gaining ground. Does Pubmed Central [0] (a government-hosted open access repository for NIH-funded work) count as a "ledger" like you're referring to? The NSF's site does a good job of explaining current US open access policy [1]. There are occasional attempts to expand the open access mandate by legislation, such as FASTR [2]. A hypothetical expansion of the open access mandate to apply to all works from /institutions/ that receive indirect costs, not just individual projects that receive direct costs, would open things up even more.

[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/

[1] https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2016/nsf16009/nsf16009.jsp#q1

[2] https://sparcopen.org/our-work/fastr/

Re:How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block by einpoklum on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @06:36PM (#27454201)
Well, some research venues (and publication venues) are not government-funded, and even if they are indirectly government funded, it's more of a sophistry than something which would make publishers hand over copies of the papers.

Also, a per-government ledger would not be super-practicable. But if, say, the US, the EU and China would agree on something like this, and implement it, and have a common ledger, then it would not be some a big leap to make it properly international. Maybe even UN-based.

That's a pretty big "if" though.

Re:How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block by posterboy on Thursday June 17, 2021 @08:19AM (#27538787)
I share the sentiment insofar as free access would benefit my own sanity, except when it is about hording.

On the other hand, there is a slippery sloap to decide what isn't scientific so much as to not be required open knowledge.

By the way, specialist knowledge and open knowledge is kind of a dichotomy. You would need to define the intersection of both. Suddenly you are looking at a patent system. Pay to Quote, citation fees, news websites already are demanding this from google, here in Germany, inuding Springer Press