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Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a... by msbarnett on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @04:54PM (#27440650)
Now try advertising your business while avoiding Google. Keep in mind that if you don't buy ads under your Company's Name from Google, Google will allow your competitors to buy those placements and make them the top results anyone searching your company on Google will see.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a... by caslon on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @04:59PM (#27440707)
Advertisement is immoral and totally unnecessary to have a profitable business.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a... by wernercd on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @08:34PM (#27442867)
> advertisment is immoral

Interesting opinion... have any facts to back up such an opinion? What's immoral about... spreading information about you and your business?

There are immoral ways to go about advertising, without doubt. But advertising itself is immoral?

Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a... by caslon on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @11:35PM (#27443940)
"What's immoral about... spreading information about you and your business?"

Non-consensually forcing anyone into anything is wrong. Advertising violates the NAP.

"But advertising itself is immoral?"

Indeed.

Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a... by wernercd on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @12:16AM (#27444163)
"non-consensually forcing anything into anyone" You have a perverveted view of "forcing" if you think sharing information is, as it sounds like you seem to be saying, the equivalent of rape.

If I say something you disagree with... I'm not violating a "Non-Aggression Principle" - unless you think that opinions make you weak (I believe diverse thought makes you stronger - can't get new ideas without communication).

And if you think communication REALLY is "aggression"... how do you pair the fact that you "forcing" your opinion on me about my opinion on advertising goes against your own principle? Isn't it kinda... a hypocritical blackhole of an opinion?

Sharing info isn't itself immoral... it's LITERALLY the bedrock of civilization, free will, free speech, self defense, etc - all start with communication. The right to say stuff others don't like or even GASP saying stuff that make them uncomfortable - like pointing out your paradoxical opinion. (HOW you share CAN be immoral... but not sharing/communication itself)

Advertising, at it's core, is sharing information. Without freedom to communicate? without the ability to share ideas? We'd be afraid of fire. we would be monkeys in caves...

Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a... by caslon on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @12:44AM (#27444301)
"You have a perverveted view of "forcing" if you think sharing information is, as it sounds like you seem to be saying, the equivalent of rape."

Something doesn't have to be rape to be non-consensually forced upon someone; consider slavery, or compulsory schooling, or non-free Javascript. A well-documented method of torture is obscuring a captive's vision and looping a single song on repeat.

"how do you pair the fact that you "forcing" your opinion on me about my opinion on advertising goes against your own principle? Isn't it kinda... a hypocritical blackhole of an opinion?"

You asked for me to share the opinion, and as such, have given consent. Wider, though, this is a message board. The point is to share on-topic messages. This includes opinions, but does not include ads.

Advertising at its core is manipulation, not sharing information. Most advertisements grant the viewer net-negative information.

Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a... by Guidii on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @10:57PM (#27443726)
I'm curious to know which profitable companies never advertise.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a... by caslon on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @12:40AM (#27444270)
Sourcehut, as a recent example.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a... by seanp2k2 on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @02:12AM (#27444761)
Tesla, Huy Fong Foods (Sriracha), Costco, Krispy Kreme, Kiehl’s, Spanx, Rolls-Royce, and Zara are some examples.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a... by tremon on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @06:06AM (#27446190)
I wouldn't add Tesla in there, its CEO is an audiovisual billboard by itself.