Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by suifbwish on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @05:02PM
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Actually that is what is known as a red herring argument. Bringing up something unrelated saying that the original argument is invalidated because the same reasoning wasn’t applied to it is a common informal fallacy. Most legal documents have something related to severability which states that even if one part of the document is found to be unreasonable/illegal/illogical, it does not invalidate the rest of the document.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by minsc__and__boo on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @10:34PM
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That's not what a red herring is.
They're calling out the logical inconsistency of the claims being made, and in turn questioning the genuineness of the speaker's motive.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by Covzire on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @05:10PM
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I'm not aware of any ISP in the US that has terminated a customer's service for perfectly legal political statements.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by minsc__and__boo on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @10:37PM
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Outside of certain protected class situations, Freedom of Association allows anyone to terminate service irregardless of legality of political statements made on their own privately-owned platform.
And no, political stance is not a protected class.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by pumaontheprowl on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @12:26AM
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Hence why Google needs to be made a public utility.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by minsc__and__boo on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @02:37AM
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Except search engines are not a necessary service for the public, which is what a public utility is.
Reclassifying a privately owned business to restrict their freedom of association because you think they threaten your political views is autocratic behavior, not democratic.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by zerocrates on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @07:08PM
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Certainly it has happened on the hosting side: connectivity, domain names, etc.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by ttt0 on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @04:53PM
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ISPs don't abuse their power like Google, Facebook, Twitter etc. do.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by verall on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @05:09PM
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They absolutely do? ISPs frequently rate the top of most hated companies lists, and many Americans do not have access to more than 1 ISP offering (>=30mbit) high speed internet.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by ttt0 on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @05:15PM
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Well then go after them too. And most importantly, go after banks, payment processors and money/infrastructure people in general so they aren't allowed to kick people off just because they don't like someone.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by marnett on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @05:38PM
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Retail Banks are highly regulated though..?
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by awillen on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @07:18PM
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Comcast once charged me a $5 self-installation fee. As in I set up the equipment in my house and paid for the privilege.
My other option was to not have internet.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by sumedh on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:34PM
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Can someone who has the time and money sue Comcast in court for this fee? I believe a judge will say that fee is not reasonable.
Re:Ohio sues Google, seeks to declare the internet company a...
by minsc__and__boo on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @10:39PM
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It undercuts their entire argument by making it look much more like a political stunt than any kind of serious action.