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Re:Fastly Outage by comboy on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @08:38AM (#27434328)
I wanted to suggest site:old.reddit.com since I use that version with automatic redirect, but this:

https://old.reddit.com/robots.txt

is very different from this:

https://reddit.com/robots.txt

I guess there is a market for search engine (maybe accessed through tor) which does not care about robots.txt, DMCAs, right to be forgotten etc. Bootstrapping it should not be that hard since it can also provide better results for some queries since nobody is fighting about the position until it's widely known.

I'm not sure how far are we from being able to do full text internet search. Or rather even quote search, preferably some fuzziness options. That would be cool, Google's quotation marks were really neat back when they were working.

Re:Fastly Outage by utf_8x on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:14AM (#27434705)
Wonder what the story is behind these two...

    User-Agent: bender
    Disallow: /my_shiny_metal_ass
    
    User-Agent: Gort
    Disallow: /earth
Re:Fastly Outage by gaius_baltar on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @10:14AM (#27435470)
That's the good old Easter eggs, perhaps a memory from when Reddit was a nice place. They stop appearing and are replaced by dark patterns once sites jump the shark.
Re:Fastly Outage by toastal on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:58AM (#27435291)
I reod some people use false slugs in the robots.txt as a honey pot of sorts. IPs that actually read the robots.txt, ignore the disallow, and still access the uri are outright banned.
Re:Fastly Outage by taylorfinley on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @01:18PM (#27438032)
Then when a flamewar breaks out you just have to get your adversary to click a link to get them IP banned.
Re:Fastly Outage by jedberg on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @11:12AM (#27436238)
Ha, that would have been a really smart idea! Sadly we didn't think of that at the time. But we had other honey pot URLs.
Re:Fastly Outage by gostsamo on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:36AM (#27434989)
It might be related to the time few years ago when Google added exclusions for user agent t1300 in regard to its founders. Gort seems to be a robot from old scifi and bender might be something similar.
Re:Fastly Outage by h2odragon on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @10:15AM (#27435475)
Bender is from Futurama, Gort is old classic scifi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gort_(The_Day_the_Earth_Stood_...
Re:Fastly Outage by jedberg on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @11:11AM (#27436224)
Just some fun humor we added for other nerds who read robots.txt files.
Re:Fastly Outage by iso1210 on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:22AM (#27434792)
Easter eggs
Re:Fastly Outage by pluc on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:24AM (#27434817)
It's neckbeard humor.
Re:Fastly Outage by jedberg on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @11:12AM (#27436243)
I'll have you know our beards were neatly trimmed when we added those.
Re:Fastly Outage by pluc on Thursday June 10, 2021 @05:18PM (#27465994)
I know you, and I find that hard to believe ;)
Re:Fastly Outage by oefrha on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @08:42AM (#27434367)
> I guess there is a market for search engine (maybe accessed through tor) which does not care about robots.txt, DMCAs, right to be forgotten etc. Bootstrapping it should not be that hard since it can also provide better results for some queries since nobody is fighting about the position until it's widely known.

That’s not going to happen before Cloudflare is dethroned. See this recent thread for some perspective: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27153603

And even if there’s no Cloudflare, large sites that people want to search will always find ways to block bad bots.

The only thing I can think of that might work is using crowd-sourced data, with all the problems that come with crowdsourcing.

Re:Fastly Outage by comboy on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:18AM (#27434745)
Sadness.

There is a solution for all this mess and I'm blocking HN and a few different domains until I implement at least the first step after which I can share it here.

Re:Fastly Outage by bruce343434 on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @12:37PM (#27437481)
try editing your hosts file to redirect reddit to old.reddit

/etc/hosts

reddit.com old.reddit.com

www.reddit.com old.reddit.com

np.reddit.com old.reddit.com