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Re:Ask HN: Has it suddenly become exceedingly hard to attrac... by _ah on Monday June 07, 2021 @08:58PM (#27429411)
Technical people are expensive (and hard to fire if they don't work out), which really raises the bar for minimum qualifications and skills. There's no room to "take a chance" on anyone anymore.

As a HM, most candidates I see are woefully underqualified. The great ones are beyond my (quite reasonable) budget. And I've seen this on the other side too: recruiters contacting me always want to hire me for mid-sr IC role when I've been managing teams for years.

Re:Ask HN: Has it suddenly become exceedingly hard to attrac... by DarrenDev on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @03:01AM (#27431424)
>Technical people are expensive (and hard to fire if they don't work out), which really raises the bar for minimum qualifications and skills. There's no room to "take a chance" on anyone anymore.

I've never been hired for a permanent job that didn't have a 6 month probationary period, so I really don't see why "hard to fire", even in Europe where it really is hard to fire, is still an excuse companies use.

Re:Ask HN: Has it suddenly become exceedingly hard to attrac... by notrly1337 on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @01:25AM (#27444504)
I believe he means there's a big commitment to get somebody going into a project. To create value, engineers need to be involved in many aspects of the product, which takes time for both parties, which is paid by the employer.
Re:Ask HN: Has it suddenly become exceedingly hard to attrac... by _ah on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @11:04AM (#27448734)
Especially at senior levels, there's ramp up time AND a larger scope of impact if the person makes bad technical decisions or negatively impacts the team. A bad hire is super expensive on both those dimensions. It's even worse when the candidate is hired into a leadership role and will be responsible for further hiring.

It's easy to see if someone is incompetent during their first 90 days: that's a basic recruiting failure. It's the other type who are sort of good, but ultimately disastrous, that cause real problems. And often, these mis-hires take ~12 months to identify and correct. The result is that caution dominates when hiring.

Re:Ask HN: Has it suddenly become exceedingly hard to attrac... by b20000 on Tuesday June 08, 2021 @09:37AM (#27435005)
hard to fire? all contracts are at will?