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Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity...
by smsm42 on Monday June 07, 2021 @12:36AM
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Let me make it easy for you: if you throw a firebomb at the cop car, it's not justified.
Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity...
by dredmorbius on Monday June 07, 2021 @04:47AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_square_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre
I really don't think it's quite so cut and dried.
Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity...
by Qwertious on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @12:45PM
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Q: If someone causes damage to my property by emitting greenhouse gases, am I entitled to defend my property by shooting them?
Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity...
by dredmorbius on Monday June 07, 2021 @02:48PM
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Thanks for providing your rationale.
I reject it. NAP is an extraordinarily convenient and frequent cover for genocide, and arguably arose from just that basis.
Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity...
by CamperBob2 on Monday June 07, 2021 @12:49AM
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Would that have been equally true in late-1930s Germany (or Russia, for that matter)?
Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity...
by smsm42 on Monday June 07, 2021 @12:55AM
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Call me from late 1930s Germany and we'll discuss it.
Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity...
by dredmorbius on Monday June 07, 2021 @04:48AM
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Take it as presumed that a questioner has a direct link to the side of the state or the opposition, or both, of 1930s Germany, and answer the question rather than dodge it.
Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity...
by GoblinSlayer on Monday June 07, 2021 @06:32AM
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It's not 1930s Germany, throwing a firebomb at the cop car out of hysteria is not justified.
Re:Once a bastion of free speech, the ACLU faces an identity...
by dredmorbius on Monday June 07, 2021 @01:43PM
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It somewhat weakens an absolute assertion "X is not justified" when a response 1) lists numerous current or recent instances in which X is argued as justified by a substantial groiup, and the further response 2) boils down to "now is not one of those times in which X is justified".
A chief weapon of both tyrant and bully is to deny their victims and targets the right to self-defence.