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Re:A Lifetime of Systems Thinking by heymijo on Sunday June 06, 2021 @01:00PM (#27414472)
> companies are a collection of people

Peter Drucker was on top of this. It's so obvious yet so often forgotten (ignored?). An organization is a group of people.

Jumping back to systems thinking. People can respond a number of ways in organizations. Enter 'policy refusal' (see Donella Meadows' systems literature for more). Executive wants A to happen. A is not in employees' best interest. Employees ignore, delay, obfuscate, outright refuse, or actively undermine A.

People are very good at policy refusal. Executives are good at not knowing its happening.

Re:A Lifetime of Systems Thinking by shoto_io on Sunday June 06, 2021 @02:51PM (#27415311)
What’s your favorite resource on Drucker? I love re-reading his book “The Effective Executive”.
Re:A Lifetime of Systems Thinking by heymijo on Sunday June 06, 2021 @04:08PM (#27415877)
His 1973 tome Management: Tasks, Responsibilities, Practices, The Essential Drucker, and Managing for Results are three I find myself opening regularly.

The Effective Executive is great as well. It's hard to narrow down because he was such a prolific writer. Recommendations are also hard because you've got to meet the reader where they are. I picked up and put down Drucker early in my career. Years later, the same pages burst with insight when I read them.

Re:A Lifetime of Systems Thinking by tomasdore on Sunday June 06, 2021 @06:41PM (#27417009)
"You've got to meet the reader where they are....Years later, the same pages burst with insight when I read them. " - Thanks for this, I find it is a great way of phrasing it, and gets to the heart of much about both education and communication.