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Re:From Julia to Rust by BadInformatics on Saturday June 05, 2021 @09:39PM (#27409981)
The biggest group outside of numerical computing in Julia land are the PL and systems people though? This includes type theorists [1], database folks [2], distributed systems people ([3] to name just one). There are also a fair number of compiler nuts, hence the existence of multiple projects [4][5] in this space. And this is before getting into things that bridge more than one of the domains above, e.g. [7] or [8].

FTR, I think it's fair to question whether numerical computing should have an outsized influence on the direction of the language. I also think it's a pretty fair comparison to point out how standardized and consistent the Rust governance process is compared to Julia's (the Rust RFC system is an exemplar here). That doesn't mean there is a dearth of PL and systems knowledge in the Julia community though.

[1] https://github.com/AlgebraicJulia/Catlab.jl [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRBl-6uEJJE [3] https://github.com/JuliaParallel/Dagger.jl/ [4] https://github.com/FluxML/IRTools.jl, https://github.com/FluxML/MacroTools.jl [5] https://github.com/JuliaCompilerPlugins [6] https://github.com/0x0f0f0f/Metatheory.jl [7] https://2020.splashcon.org/details/splash-2020-rebase/13/Non... [8] https://github.com/JuliaSymbolics/Symbolics.jl

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Re:From Julia to Rust by neolog on Saturday June 05, 2021 @10:47PM (#27410335)
There are some nice packages, no doubt.

How many people with significant prior language design experience are deeply involved in the language design process? what about database dev experience? OS dev? server dev?

> I also think it's a pretty fair comparison to point out how standardized and consistent the Rust governance process is compared to Julia's (the Rust RFC system is an exemplar here).

Yep. I want the language to be good, but it needs help from communities like the Rust language team.

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Re:From Julia to Rust by BadInformatics on Sunday June 06, 2021 @11:35AM (#27413841)
I can think of at least 5 "core" contributors (out of only 20 or so) off the top of my head who have a PL or systems background. Given some time, I could easily find 10-15 more who are affiliated with the Julia Lab, Julia Computing or community regulars. Hell, most of the Julia Lab's projects are systems stuff.
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