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Re:Neural Actor: Neural Free-View Synthesis of Human Actors ... by jfengel on Friday June 04, 2021 @12:22PM (#27395244)
If anything, it's the low-paid actors that would go instead.

Highly-paid actors are celebrities. They are engaging in a way that is incredibly hard to describe but nonetheless seems to be widely recognized. They aren't necessarily "good actors" (a term that is itself hard to define), but people enjoy looking at them. People go to a film just because some well-known actor is in it, and that's what makes them so valuable.

Every film set is chock full of talented people. Plenty of people could have done great work as, say, Tony Stark. Hollywood is full of beautiful and talented women who just never manage to get that "it factor". To displace highly-paid actors they'll have to replicate that, and that'll open up a whole new set of questions.

The ones who go first will be the low-paid actors who surround them. They are the ones doing sitcom pilots that get shelved, or commercials for dog food and allergy medicine, or being saved from having a bus dropped on them. Such actors are actually reasonably well paid on the days the work (over $1,000 a day for big-budget films or TV; $9,064 for a week as a guest star), though most of them work only a tiny fraction of the time. There are more people making a living at that than being a star, though the odds still suck.

Re:Neural Actor: Neural Free-View Synthesis of Human Actors ... by asiachick on Friday June 04, 2021 @04:47PM (#27398890)
You're probably right but we already have the example of Hatsune Miku. Sure she's an exception but the software isn't there yet. At someone point someone will make a truly hit movie or TV show with 1 or more main synthetic characters.

I'm sure when Tron came out lots people said "practical effects will never disappear". And yet with few exceptions they mostly have.

Re:Neural Actor: Neural Free-View Synthesis of Human Actors ... by jfengel on Friday June 04, 2021 @05:15PM (#27399156)
We will definitely have digitally-created stars as a separate medium. We have for a long time had animated characters who don't speak. They still involve intensive human direction to create them, but they don't have human form or human voice. They're still plenty entertaining.

They get to do things that humans can't do. They can entertain in entirely novel ways. Using them as a substitute for human actors is kinda the faster-horses-not-cars of movies.

We use CGI characters for inhuman effects, but I think it's often not very effective. I don't care for most superhero movies because I don't really care about watching CGIs punch CGIs harder than human actors could do. There aren't any stakes; there's no dramatic risk. I'd rather watch a martial arts movie, which is limited by what humans are capable of.

That's still something we're learning. Part of what made the Lord of the Rings films more interesting than the Hobbit follow-ons was that the latter used more practical effects. New Zealand was a big star in LotR; Hobbit used more CGI backgrounds. Audiences felt the sense of place.

We'll improve the tech so that it seems even more realistic. The new technology used in The Mandalorian is really exciting (though I'd be curious to see how it played on a big screen). But it was at its best when it made up very real-world seeming worlds, while animation uses digital worlds in totally unrealistic and even more exciting ways.

So I'm expecting that we'll continue to have practical effects in the best movies starring humans, and continue to have human stars. But we're still waiting for the first mega-hit CGI star who can do whatever magic it is Robert Downey Jr. does. When they can catch that, RDJ may well be out of a job -- not replaced, but the entire enterprise gone.

Re:Neural Actor: Neural Free-View Synthesis of Human Actors ... by stubish on Friday June 04, 2021 @10:20PM (#27401402)
What happens when the highly-paid actors age? There won't be any young celebrity actors, because without the low-paid jobs there is nowhere to gain that sort or celebrity. Instead, you will see younger versions of older, highly-paid actors. And eventually just versions of deceased actors. Stage actors will remain stage actors, with side gigs as puppeteers of virtual actors. And reality TV. Maybe this is the dystopian future, where our movie stars are all former reality TV participants (or digital representations of them that can actually act).