Yes thank you for your responses. People wine but we're clearly pathetic as an industry, limping along with Unix etc. We know so much about how to build better systems, and yet it's more bandages on the status quo, all the while increasing complexity which makes things largely futile.

Unlike "real war", cyber defense also gets to design the battlefield, everytime time. There will always be social attacks, but the stupid C and Unix stuff that is the bread & butter today is completely preventable