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Re:Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also And... by dragonwriter on Thursday June 03, 2021 @04:57AM (#27378691)
> Or perhaps not acknowledging that under the umbrella of democracy the same things happen, is whataboutism.

No. That may be denial, but “whataboutism” is a variant (or, really, just a different name for) the tu quoque fallacy that deflects criticism by accusing the critic of hypocritically ignoring the same action they criticize when committed by a friendly party (or committing it themselves).

A critic denying that a friendly party engages in the act they are criticizing isn’t “whataboutism”. It may or may not be hypcocrisy, denialism, or something else, but its not whataboutism.

OTOH, accusing a critic of whataboutism (and invoking a nonstandard – indeed inverted – definition of “whataboutism” to do it) when they point out whataboutism as a deflection technique, so as to deflect the criticism contained in the original accusation of whataboutism is advanced-level whataboutism.

Re:Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also And... by peoplefromibiza on Thursday June 03, 2021 @05:01AM (#27378706)
> the tu quoque fallacy that deflects criticism by accusing the critic of hypocritically ignoring the same action they criticize

I'm not justifying what happens in China, I'm saying that the US democracy spent 65 million dollars of 1948-1970s money to control the politics of a sovereign allied and financed far right terrorist groups that killed hundreds of innocent people and still refuse as of today to release the documents about it.

Sometimes some democracies are simply not better than regimes.

They can be equally bad, you knew if it happened to your country.

So maybe is denial, but maybe whataboutism is the idea that "we did some things, but look at us, we are a democracy, we did it because obviously it was necessary to preserve it, because the others are the real bad ones".