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Re:Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also And... by monocasa on Thursday June 03, 2021 @03:44AM (#27378290)
Can Huawei use Github anymore? Wouldn't that be US based technology that would be fined or worse if they allowed Huawei on in an explicit way?

And don't most sites have a "tell the mods about something that looks illegal" button? I see a big 'flag' button here.

Re:Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also And... by clusterfish on Thursday June 03, 2021 @06:09AM (#27379135)
In all fairness, when you get flagged on HN, dang doesn't come down on you quite as hard as CCP does when you get reported for something they don't like. Giving them your app's business as a hostage does not sound very wise to me.
Re:Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also And... by trasz on Thursday June 03, 2021 @11:44AM (#27383065)
Quite the contrary, blocking software due to some misguided US-specific regulations is quite common on GitHub, see youtube-dl.
Re:Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also And... by throwaway6421 on Thursday June 03, 2021 @04:03AM (#27378413)
> Can Huawei use Github anymore? Wouldn't that be US based technology that would be fined or worse if they allowed Huawei on in an explicit way?

https://github.com/Huawei

> And don't most sites have a "tell the mods about something that looks illegal" button? I see a big 'flag' button here.

Traditional moderation systems are built to handle abuse, such as threats, stalking, and spamming. Chinese moderation systems are built differently. As the title "Illegal and harmful information" suggests, they're primarily built around suppressing speech that is deemed politically undesirable. If you're interested in the details, I highly recommend you read the article written by someone who worked at 抖音, China's TikTok [1]. Oftentimes Chinese platforms are extremely responsive to reports about political speech, but are sluggish or do not respond at all to reports about abusive behavior. The Chinese systems are just designed differently, and are usually connected or even run directly by the government. e.g., if you click through on Gitee, you end up on a page run by the "Cyberspace Administration of China" [2].

[1] https://www.protocol.com/china/i-built-bytedance-censorship-...

[2] https://12377.cn/

Re:Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also And... by monocasa on Thursday June 03, 2021 @04:10AM (#27378441)
> > Can Huawei use Github anymore? Wouldn't that be US based technology that would be fined or worse if they allowed Huawei on in an explicit way?

> https://github.com/Huawei

Yeah, there's been a few pushes, but has been pretty dead for at least a year. They pretty clearly stopped using it for the most part once they were put on the entity list.

> Traditional moderation systems...

I don't really see anything structurally different there versus western site moderation tools. It's totally valid to discuss china's political issues, but the fact that a 'contact the mods' button exists doesn't really further that discussion in a meaningful way.

Re:Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also And... by tome on Thursday June 03, 2021 @03:53AM (#27378348)
Could you expand? Why would Github be fined if they let Huawei on their service?

> And don't most sites have a "tell the mods about something that looks illegal" button? I see a big 'flag' button here.

Perhaps. I think the debate is about exactly what is illegal, not about features that allow reporting illegal activity.

Re:Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also And... by monocasa on Thursday June 03, 2021 @03:59AM (#27378392)
> Could you expand? Why would Github be fined if they let Huawei on their service?

Because they're on the US's Entity List, which bans US companies from doing business with them without case by case, explicit approval from the US Commerce Department.

https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-google-android-ban-9...

> Perhaps. I think the debate is about exactly what is illegal, not about features that allow reporting illegal activity.

Sure, but pearl clutching over a 'contact the mods' button or the fact that they didn't host their code on a US site that they're literally banned from interacting with by the US government doesn't really further that discussion, and in my mind cheapens the valid discussion around actual CCP issues.

Re:Huawei replaces Android with HarmonyOS, which is also And... by tome on Thursday June 03, 2021 @05:05AM (#27378734)
> > Could you expand? Why would Github be fined if they let Huawei on their service?

> Because they're on the US's Entity List, which bans US companies from doing business with them without case by case, explicit approval from the US Commerce Department.

Oh wow, I had no idea. I don't know how I missed that. Thanks!

So I guess US companies cannot buy their employees Huawei phones (without explicit approval).