Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September

Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by gnulinux on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @08:48PM (#27375857)

I think this has to do with seniority. When I was a lot more experienced than my coworker, doing pair programming was insanely fun. Because it felt like solving a puzzle with a friend, or exploring a video game with my sister. Now I'm occasionally pair programming with my manager -- who's like a 1000x me -- pair programming is mentally blocking. It's because my peer thinks so much faster than I do that it feels like I'm watching an action movie on 10x speed except every 3 minutes someone pauses the movie and asks questions.

EDIT: To make myself clear, this is not a criticism of my boss, it's just that pair programming with someone who is a lot more experienced than you is just naturally intimidating.

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Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by BrissyCoder on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @09:17PM (#27376070)

No. At least in my case it has nothing to do with disparity in experience or speed of thought and everything to do with being in my own physical space.

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Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by scrose on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @09:07PM (#27376011)

I’ve been in both positions and know the feeling! Whenever I pair with someone now, I usually try and slow things down in the beginning and ask questions along the way to see if they follow me, even if I think what I’m doing is ‘simple’. No point in pairing if the other persons eyes are glazing over :)

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Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by eyelidlessness on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @09:19PM (#27376087)

This is great, and also good to encourage with people who are more junior. They might think they’ve explained the thing from their understanding but it’s trivial to omit details in that position too.

I’m by no means junior but I’m new on a team, and I’ve had to remember over and over that the giant blob of the state of everything is unfamiliar to me, familiar to my team, and when I elide details I’m not saving anyone any time because I’m not sure whether those details are relevant or even if they might reveal where I’m off track.

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Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by Balero on Thursday June 03, 2021 @10:04AM (#27381530)

I get this a lot as well. Just as soon as you are about to say something, or start typing. Just as the idea is coalescing in your mind, as you are walking down the path of understanding.

From over your shoulder: "Then do this thing cos of this this and this" - yes thank you I know. Eventually I feel downcast and just stop thinking for myself, I'm just a typer at that point.

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Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by veilrap on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @11:29PM (#27376934)

I find this very interesting, because I'm in a similar boat, pretty senior, but not the top of the ladder. But for me some of my favorite pair programming sessions are with people who are operating on another level. It really gets the brain juices going.

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