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Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by ModernMech on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @08:47PM (#27375847)
> Or are these people working for companies that provide food or something.

It's this. Companies started offering food to keep their employees in the office longer. That people here are saying they prefer eating at work due to the cost shows it worked.

Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by bredren on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @08:55PM (#27375908)
It isn't just that they prefer eating at work due to cost. Work provides prepared food.

Preparing food means getting ingredients, tracking expiration and making and storing leftover food.

In some ways this is wonderful, in others it is a huge time and energy sink compared to eating at work.

Spoiled food wastes more than money and it happens easily.

You can buy prepared food for home via takeout or frozen but those have their own problems.

Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by thrower123 on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @09:36PM (#27376198)
For me, going back to the office means going back to eating microwaved leftovers, or spending $15-20 a day on lunch out.

Totaling up gas and mileage and food and tolls, commuting to the office is going to cost me on the order of $500-1000 a month that I'm not spending now. Just the extra time that I'd need to spend getting ready to go to work and then commuting works out to an entire extra work week of time over the course of a month.

Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by quicklime on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @10:15PM (#27376492)
On the other hand, where I live the marginal cost of an extra bedroom (to put a home office in) for a city apartment is about $1000 a month. In some higher cost of living cities it will be more.

It’s be cheaper out in the suburbs, but even then it might be another few hundred a month.

I’m surprised that people are talking about things like electricity costs when real estate costs are so much higher.

Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by ghaff on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @11:31PM (#27376947)
Absolutely for employees, the biggest (I'd probably argue only real economic downside) is more space if the company is urban and they really want to stay urban. Arguments around electricity are ludicrous and food only applies to a very limited set of companies.
Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by tgsovlerkhgsel on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @09:33PM (#27376175)
> to keep their employees in the office longer.

At the office, maybe, but definitely not working.

For dinner, the set times provide natural day boundaries with a strong incentive to wrap up by a certain time. During lunch, it may be saving some time that people wouldn't work by doing away with the need to get to and wait for a restaurant (if the company wouldn't provide any cafeteria at all; every place where I worked had one, usually paid and lunch-only though).

I believe that companies provide food because it's a relatively cheap perk providing a lot of value that simply cannot be replicated.

If I have to make my own food, I have to grocery shop, cook, and do dishes, all of this done inefficiently at small scale and out of my own time. At a buffet-style cafeteria, you just walk in, grab food, eat, drop off your dishes, done. The real value isn't the free food. It's the convenience that comes with it.

At the same time, it doesn't cost the company that much. Raw ingredients aren't that expensive, and neither is running a cafeteria if everything is prepared at scale.

Even if you ignore the cost, restaurants (including buffet style ones) can't replicate that convenience: They aren't at a place where you are anyways, and payment adds extra friction. A la carte restaurants are right out because of the wait. And even if the food actually did make people stay longer - I bet that time is made up by not having to do chores to feed yourself.

Re:Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starti... by pseudalopex on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @09:40PM (#27376231)
Hunger is a strong incentive to wrap up. Serving dinner an hour after most people would leave otherwise is an incentive to stay an hour longer. And some people eat dinner and go back to their desks.