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Re:Covid deaths plunge after 75% of town's adults vaccinated by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @09:40PM (#27363805)
> anti-vaccine movement is not going to stop because these people are not persuaded by facts or arguments

That’s fine. Nobody should be forced to have something injected into them.

But society doesn’t have to wait for them. Decisions have consequences, and a lot of public goods are a privilege, not a right. You have a right to refuse to get photo ID; it does not follow you have a right to fly.

If you choose not to get vaccinated, the public shouldn’t be responsible for your care costs, if you get sick or debilitated. You should also responsible for the costs of those you injure. Like Arizona’s stupid motorist law for people who ignore flood signs.

Re:Covid deaths plunge after 75% of town's adults vaccinated by nradov on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @09:51PM (#27363875)
If you choose to do something else dangerous like rock climbing or smoking or unprotected sex should the public also not be responsible for your care costs? Or do you have some logical explanation for why vaccines are unique?

In the US you can still board domestic flights without ID, although the TSA will delay you for extra screening.

I am not an anti-vaxxer, but bodily autonomy is important and we mustn't coerce people into medical treatments.

Re:Covid deaths plunge after 75% of town's adults vaccinated by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @10:53PM (#27364251)
> If you choose to do something else dangerous like rock climbing or smoking or unprotected sex should the public also not be responsible for your care costs?

Personally, yes. Until we reach the point that e.g. rock climbing is available to everyone in the population, it's unfair to ask those who cannot afford it to subsidize those who can but put the costs of their adventures on the public. (That's why I think unprotected sex and smoking are public concerns. They're accessible to nearly everyone.)

> In the US you can still board domestic flights without ID, although the TSA will delay you for extra screening.

The analogy to this would be requiring negative Covid tests. I, and most people, I think, would be fine with someone refusing vaccination if they can consistently show recent negative tests.

Re:Covid deaths plunge after 75% of town's adults vaccinated by mjevans on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @09:57PM (#27363920)
I believe in efforts like the eradication of Polio.

Yes, for some things I believe it's ethical. If EVERYONE, excluding specifically known to be at risk individuals (already medically compromised in other ways), is forced to receive a specific inoculation as part of an effort to eradicate the disease and make everyone better off as a result, that is fair and should happen.