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Re:The Most Powerful JVM Language Available by tomp on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @05:27PM (#2735959)
They'll learn, but what... They will work in banks, write code using their proprietary frameworks, and be forced to comply with strict coding guidelines, never experimenting, testing the limits of the code, etc... They might even hate coding.

True, I can't really speak from experience, as I've learnt to code by myself, from a young age, I wasn't forced or urged to do it, so I have no idea what happens with people that have to learn to program as part of their education/job. However, the professor that was teaching us, who has apparently worked in the industry as well, seemed... limited - mentally - thinking inside the box. That, or he was a very good teacher, taking it very slowly, and boring the hell out of me.

Re:The Most Powerful JVM Language Available by scott_s on Wednesday July 06, 2011 @07:13PM (#2736387)
If you know how to do X, and you are in a class where the teacher is teaching how to do X, you will become frustrated and bored.