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Re:Firefox Release 89.0 by kevincox on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @10:03AM (#27354650)
To be perfectly blunt it doesn't matter what a team is doing. They paid $X million to "design resources" and directed those resources at the redesign featured in this release. Instead they could have paid that to backend, other UX initiatives, the extension team, the privacy team...

I understand that you can't swing resources around freely in the short term but you don't have a bunch of designers sitting around by accident. Someone decided that they should hire them.

Re:Firefox Release 89.0 by LargoLasskhyfv on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @10:47AM (#27355209)
Let them clean the restrooms.
Re:Firefox Release 89.0 by pseudalopex on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @10:08AM (#27354712)
You're right the money could be spent elsewhere. But calling people resources is rude to put it mildly.
Re:Firefox Release 89.0 by kevincox on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @10:19AM (#27354885)
I said I was being blunt in the prefix.

I definitely agree that we need to think about people, that was a large component of "you can't swing resources around freely". Firing people is not something that I would like to see. The point I was trying to emphasize is that it isn't as if Mozilla just happened to have X people with design skills and Y people with whatever other skills. There was planning to build the teams and planning to pick the projects. So while I agree that you can't just put people on random projects I wanted to point out that Mozilla had a lot of agency in the decisions that lead up to a team working on the redesign, it didn't happen just because they happened to have a bunch of designers available.

Re:Firefox Release 89.0 by Zababa on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @02:14PM (#27358880)
> But calling people resources is rude to put it mildly.

I don't think it's considered rude, since "Human Resources" is a widely accepted term.

Re:Firefox Release 89.0 by pseudalopex on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @04:02PM (#27360493)
Human resources is just a depersonalizing term for personnel. Design resources is just a depersonalizing term for designers.

Human resources is less bad because it doesn't refer to specific people. And most people can't choose what the department is called. But they can choose what they call other people.

Re:Firefox Release 89.0 by hajile on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @10:33AM (#27355065)
Good UI developers are incredibly hard to find. If they let them go, it will take a couple years to get a new team assembled and integrated into Mozilla.

I agree with the idea of other UX initiatives though. They could definitely have the team work on other parts of Firefox even though that isn't as immediately visible to all users.

Re:Firefox Release 89.0 by brotherofsteel on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @11:49AM (#27356392)
>Good UI developers are incredibly hard to find.

Is that why the ones they do have keep messing up the UI?