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Re:We only ever talk about the third attack on Pearl Harbor by ansible on Monday May 31, 2021 @07:07PM (#27349087)
> ... with the dive bombers avoiding running into fighters, ...

The conventional narrative of the battle is that the torpedo bombers (coming in low as part of their standard attack pattern), drew off the IJN figher cover, using up their fuel and ammo. When the dive bombers attacked the IJN fleet, the figher cover wasn't in a position to stop them effectively.

The price paid for this "distraction" (which wasn't planned as such) was steep, the losses among the torpedo bomber squadrons was severe.

Re:We only ever talk about the third attack on Pearl Harbor by jabl on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @03:56AM (#27351733)
Absolutely. Also the torpedo squadrons arriving piecemeal due to mishaps in navigation and the USN lack of capability to quickly launch a coordinated strike, meant that the IJN carriers were occupied with launching/recovering/refueling/rearming fighters, and weren't able to launch their own strikes. So when the dive bombers attacked, the IJN strike aircraft were waiting fully loaded and fueled in the hangars, with devastating results.