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Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by kingosticks on Monday May 31, 2021 @07:30AM (#27342904)
I got and email about this few weeks back (I must have signed up to the list at some point) but I was put off by two things.

> We've already preserved 100,000+ files, and are quite reliable at this point.

"quite reliable" doesn't cut it for a paid service for me, even a new one.

My second issue, and I might be wrong about this, is that there's no way to share photos with someone who isn't a (paying) ente user.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by vishnumohandas on Monday May 31, 2021 @07:38AM (#27342972)
> "quite reliable"

As an engineer, I shy away from using superlatives. But sorry, I now understand that this could have been phrased better. Thank you for pointing it out.

> no way to share photos

Correction, the receiver can be on the free plan.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by quaintdev on Monday May 31, 2021 @08:16AM (#27343274)
I am guessing he is expecting to share pics with users who did not sign up. It maybe a one time thing.

But I think you need user logged in because of encryption.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by vishnumohandas on Monday May 31, 2021 @08:24AM (#27343341)
That’s right.

We could generate public URLs that contain the decryption key of the album within the URL fragment. But as an encrypted storage provider, we would like to ship this only after we're reasonably confident that there are checks in place to prevent abuse.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by kingosticks on Monday May 31, 2021 @08:38AM (#27343437)
Yes, this is what I meant and the solution you describe is what I'd be looking for. So +1 from me!
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by spuz on Monday May 31, 2021 @08:31AM (#27343388)
ente looks interesting to me, but I would like to have the feature to share an album with anyone who has the link. I guess that is not so easy to do though as it would require creating a decrypted copy of the photos in the album that you wish to share which would take extra time and space.
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by vishnumohandas on Monday May 31, 2021 @09:02AM (#27343635)
The client that is sharing the album could append the decryption key of that album to the URL fragment, such that it never reaches the server.

For example: albums.ente.io/{albumID}/!#{decryptionKey}

Now on the receivers side, the client can use this `decryptionKey` to decrypt and render the photos.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by StavrosK on Monday May 31, 2021 @08:23AM (#27343326)
I think this is a mismatch between UK English where "quite" means "extremely" and US English where "quite" means "mostly".
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by kingosticks on Monday May 31, 2021 @08:36AM (#27343420)
I'm British and to me "quite" here means "mostly" i.e. not entirely. Could well be a misunderstanding but it should be made clearer as this data is priceless.
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by ghaff on Monday May 31, 2021 @10:16AM (#27344307)
>as this data is priceless

Personally, I'd never trust the only copy of something important to a service provider--especially one that isn't a "big name." (Though even in the case of big names there can be issues with account access, etc.)

ADDED: Curious why people find this a controversial statement. I understand if you have AWS set up with various redundancies but even a service like Backblaze I consider a belt and suspenders-type backup. This is in no way a commentary on the OP but simply an acknowledgement that stuff happens.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by vishnumohandas on Monday May 31, 2021 @12:29PM (#27345727)
You're right about two being one and one being none.

Our current setup includes primary backups to BackBlaze[1], and eventually consistent replications to Scaleway's cold storage[2].

We would like to offer an extra replica as an addon in the future.

[1]: https://www.backblaze.com

[2]: https://www.scaleway.com/en/c14-cold-storage

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by ghaff on Monday May 31, 2021 @03:00PM (#27347137)
Makes sense. You can feel vulnerable in a big hurry if your primary fails or if it turns out that one of your backups wasn't being properly backed up to.

I know a lot of people these days are fine with their stuff mostly just being stored in "the cloud" someplace. But for things like photos, I really want a couple copies under my control to the degree possible.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by StavrosK on Monday May 31, 2021 @08:46AM (#27343505)
Doesn't "quite good" mean "great"? That was my impression, at least.
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by andybak on Monday May 31, 2021 @09:02AM (#27343631)
Another Brit. It's all in the context. "Quite" can easily be a strong superlative but it relies on shared understanding between the parties so I wouldn't depend on that interpretation.

It's fine in a spoken context as tone can add sufficient extra meaning. If you can guarantee the listener is expecting an informal register then it probably also comes across as a superlative. "I met him and he's quite unpleasant" would usually imply he was a total c*nt.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by oneeyedpigeon on Monday May 31, 2021 @08:59AM (#27343619)
Not really, but it depends on context. The nuance is often difficult to detect when written. When spoken, a phrase like "quite extraordinary" or "quite brilliant" would usually be a superlative, as you suggest, but it would usually be indicated by emphasis on the "quite". And the adjective itself already has to be quite strong, so "quite good" will never really mean "great".
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by taneq on Monday May 31, 2021 @08:59AM (#27343616)
This is classic British understatement. It doesn't literally mean 'great', but depending on how it's said it can be interpreted as such.
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Photos? by KineticLensman on Monday May 31, 2021 @10:10AM (#27344263)
I think most Brits (I am a Brit) would write "very" when they mean "extremely" rather than "quite". In spoken English there is a lot of nuance, but if you said a meal was "quite good" it would often have a connotation of "better than just okay" rather than "excellent". Saying a meal was "really good" would be closer to "excellent".