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Re:Drones may have attacked humans fully autonomously for th... by andyjohnson0 on Monday May 31, 2021 @06:13AM (#27342416)
> Software has been in weapon systems since the 1970's from guidance to target acquisition. It's already there, and has been for a while.

Obviously correct, so in a sense the parent commenters concerns are not about something new.

But historically these weapons systems are massively expensive custom systems developed by defence contractors for major states. Costs, budget cycles, and technical limitations went some way to limiting their ubiquity and the rate they could gain functions.

So cruse missiles had autonomous terrain-matching terminal guidance, but the US needed the combined abilities of the NRO and General Dynamics / McDonnell Douglas / Raytheon etc to build it.

Whereas now we have free and triviably cloneable software (embedded OSs, drone flight and guidance s/w, ML and image recognition stacks, global mapping data) and a massive range (compared to event ten years ago) of dirt-cheap cots hardware (GPS, lidar, ...)for making autonomous moving objects. And often those devices are fairly thin hardware shells around yet more software.

The network effects driving these capabilities, particularly in software, and their seemingly exponential increase, are what I took to be the source of the parent commenters concerns.

Re:Drones may have attacked humans fully autonomously for th... by bb88 on Monday May 31, 2021 @02:22PM (#27346819)
> Whereas now we have free and triviably cloneable software (embedded OSs, drone flight and guidance s/w, ML and image recognition stacks, global mapping data) and a massive range (compared to event ten years ago) of dirt-cheap cots hardware...

If you look at the current tactics of insurgency, software is not a part of it. Enemies of the US (Al Qaeda, etc) already had tremendous success with the current insurgency tactics (IEDs, etc) which were low tech solutions, and were vastly hard for the US to overcome.

Why would they go to software when there's plenty of tried and tested low-tech solutions already to kill your enemies?

Re:Drones may have attacked humans fully autonomously for th... by cutemonster on Tuesday June 01, 2021 @10:37AM (#27355100)
> Why would they go to software when there's plenty of tried and tested low-tech solutions

To kill more people, whilst taking even lower risks themselves.

They probably wouldn't write the software themselves -- they'd get it from e.g. some supportive dictatorship

(With "them", I'm personally not thinking about the talibans, but other groups)

Re:Drones may have attacked humans fully autonomously for th... by bb88 on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @02:27AM (#27365558)
I just think about the history of war, and it was already pretty brutal without software. I don't see how software changes that equation. More brutal than what?

Sarin gas? Nuclear weapons? Truck Bombs? Strapping bombs onto children?

Re:Drones may have attacked humans fully autonomously for th... by cutemonster on Friday June 04, 2021 @02:01AM (#27391037)
I didn't say it'd be more brutal.

Cheaper and more accessible though. Not many people can build or buy their own nukes or sarin gas.