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Re:Ask HN: Negotiating Salary by ErrantX on Sunday May 30, 2021 @09:30AM (#27333101)
As an add-on to this; whatever they offer first is likely below what they are willing to pay.

So even if they do offer the 30 you'd be happy with, still negotiate. The outcome can only be happier for you.

Re:Ask HN: Negotiating Salary by SergeAx on Sunday May 30, 2021 @03:29PM (#27335907)
On the contrary: on today's candidate market company is interested to give the best offer it can afford, to close the position with suitable engineer.
Re:Ask HN: Negotiating Salary by ErrantX on Sunday May 30, 2021 @05:37PM (#27337081)
That doesn't make sense for the same reason individuals should negotiate.

The market is currently incredibly hot, which drives up average wages. But a good company will make a sensible offer on the low boundary with a willingness to go up. Then if someone offers you 4k more at least that sets me a marker.

Re:Ask HN: Negotiating Salary by SergeAx on Thursday June 03, 2021 @06:08PM (#27388058)
You never been in position when you desperately need to fill several engineering roles but can't find suitable candidates for weeks, right?