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Re:ProtonMail includes Google Recaptcha for login by antiterra on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:16PM (#27326202)
Doesn’t self-hosting also have privacy downsides, being that all the hardware is tied to you? I’d imagine whatever minor resistance to wiretapping a multiuser site gave regarding privacy of non-investigated individuals would disappear.
Re:ProtonMail includes Google Recaptcha for login by RussianCow on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:42PM (#27326428)
It depends on your threat model. If you’re worried about big companies like Google harvesting your data, self-hosting is a great solution because you remove them from the equation entirely. On the other hand, if you’re worried about three-letter government agencies, you need to go through much more extreme measures. Most people aren’t as concerned with the latter, though.
Re:ProtonMail includes Google Recaptcha for login by caymanjim on Saturday May 29, 2021 @04:07PM (#27327896)
This is why I self-host. I'm not trying to hide from the government, as I know they don't care about me. Sure, in principle I don't want them snooping me, but it's not a concern. I self-host because I don't want companies snooping all my data.
Re:ProtonMail includes Google Recaptcha for login by bsder on Saturday May 29, 2021 @08:02PM (#27329364)
> Doesn’t self-hosting also have privacy downsides, being that all the hardware is tied to you?

Sure. But I'm not worried about someone who has an actual warrant for ME getting at stuff.

What I want to stop is some random law enforcement idiot from Dipshitsville, Texas, from sending an electronic request to Google for "every email with the word "abortion" and "protest" in it" who promptly turns over all my email.

If you want my email, you're gonna have to get up off your chair, file a warrant with somebody's name on it in front of a judge, crossfile in some different legal jurisdictions, and have someone come seize my machines.

That will stop most everybody short of NSA.

If your threat is the NSA, you're screwed anyway. If they can't get at your email legitimately, they'll just fabricate the evidence they need against you.

Re:ProtonMail includes Google Recaptcha for login by dragonwriter on Saturday May 29, 2021 @08:04PM (#27329377)
> If your threat is the NSA, you’re screwed anyway. If they can’t get at your email legitimately, they’ll just fabricate the evidence they need against you.

The NSA doesn’t need evidence; you must have them confused with the FBI.

Re:ProtonMail includes Google Recaptcha for login by BostonEnginerd on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:42PM (#27326429)
The 1986 electronic privacy act consider emails older than 180 days old to be “abandoned” and do not require a warrant to access.

Self-hosting at least means that this should not apply, I think.

Re:ProtonMail includes Google Recaptcha for login by artificial on Saturday May 29, 2021 @01:53PM (#27326979)
From what I can see there was a House resolution passed in 2017 which protects email. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/05/email-privacy-act-come...
Re:ProtonMail includes Google Recaptcha for login by pseudalopex on Saturday May 29, 2021 @06:45PM (#27328865)
It never passed the Senate.[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_Privacy_Act