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Re:Pwned passwords, open source in the .NET foundation and w... by ping_pong on Friday May 28, 2021 @11:58PM (#27322925)
Back in the day, I played Counter-strike, Quake, Warcraft, Doom (I played PvP against people in my dorm using modem using IPX protocol pre-Internet). The first place I saw it was definitely Counter-strike. My guess is that it originated in CS and then leaked out from there.
Re:Pwned passwords, open source in the .NET foundation and w... by Nadya on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:25AM (#27323017)
1989: http://phrack.org/issues/24/11.html

Unless Y2K comes before 1989 it most certainly did not come from Counter-strike. Pwning something had existed throughout the 1990's hacker culture and likely was in use in the 80's too. There are some of us old enough to remember it being used. It probably stemmed from QWERTY keyboards and o/p being close to one another. "Pwned" is an easy typo from "Owned" and "owned by [some hacker/hacker group]" was always common way to deface hacked websites. It easily predates Counter-strike's release date by at least a decade so it could not have originated from CS.

Re:Pwned passwords, open source in the .NET foundation and w... by hug on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:42AM (#27323077)
“Phrack World News” and it’s acronym are a different usage to the word synonymous with “own” — which is not saying it wasn’t in use before counter-strike, but the link isn’t good evidence for it.
Re:Pwned passwords, open source in the .NET foundation and w... by Nadya on Saturday May 29, 2021 @01:09AM (#27323186)
I overlooked the acronym and that is a very fair point.
Re:Pwned passwords, open source in the .NET foundation and w... by ping_pong on Saturday May 29, 2021 @01:08AM (#27323182)
Do a bit better research. It stands for Phrack World News in this context. I also read Phrack back in the day as well.

How about trying to search through all the Phrack articles to find the use of the word "pwn" that doesn't refer to Phrack World News? Spoiler alert: you won't find any usage of "pwn" or "pwned" until well past 2000. If it was so much part of hacker culture you would have seen a reference in the earlier articles, but you don't.

Re:Pwned passwords, open source in the .NET foundation and w... by fogihujy on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:42AM (#27323075)
I saw pwn being used as a synonym for own in the mid-90's so it definitely predates Counter Strike.

That being said, it probably originated as a typo and that could have happened on multiple occasions.

Re:Pwned passwords, open source in the .NET foundation and w... by quesera on Saturday May 29, 2021 @05:58PM (#27328561)
You are definitely correct.

Hack/phreak BBS culture and leetspeak went mainstream though IRC and video game chat.

Everything old is new again, nothing new under the sun, etc.

I'm waiting for !!1!!!1!11 to make a resurgence.

Re:Pwned passwords, open source in the .NET foundation and w... by atatatat on Saturday May 29, 2021 @02:38AM (#27323480)
> The first place I saw it was definitely Counter-strike

Nobody ever made that hilarious typo in a shooter before CS, lol

You are the arbiter of truth.