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Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by paulgb on Friday May 28, 2021 @12:31PM (#27317428)
My experience is largely the same, but I have to concede with the haters on the point that Twitter has been doing what they can to make drama from the rest of the site leak into my feed. First the algorithmic timeline (and the dark pattern where if you switch to chronological it automatically switches back after time), then automatically suggesting tweets from topics outside my network with no way to turn it off.

The whole blue check Stanford Prison Experiment of giving verified people/accounts additional privileges and boosted rankings also doesn’t help matters. What was supposed to be a security feature became a status symbol.

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by dorkwood on Friday May 28, 2021 @05:22PM (#27320678)
I agree that the follow topic suggestions are awful. They don't even respect muted keywords. I can be browsing my timeline, peacefully looking at art and developer side-projects, and then out of nowhere I'll get hit with several political tweets from accounts that no one in my network even follows.

I used to have the same opinion as the parent poster. I'd tell people that Twitter is actually really great if you curate your feed. Unfortunately, I can't tell people that anymore, because it's not possible to do.

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by leephillips on Friday May 28, 2021 @06:25PM (#27321245)
It is possible. The trick is to use lists, and never look at your timeline:

https://lee-phillips.org/howtotwitter/

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by godot on Friday May 28, 2021 @07:22PM (#27321653)
Nice, didn't know about this.

For some background, I've only become a real user of Twitter this year (I've had an account for ages, but never used it much). Currently there is one topic of interest to me I'd like to follow the community closely. Independently (before reading this article), I've also found the timeline useless as well. Instead I follow a handful to a dozen of people by turning on notification for them in addition to follow. Every day I go to notification tab in my Twitter app, tap on the one for tweets from people I enabled notification for. This is a chronologically sorted list of tweets by these people. This has been the only way Twitter has been useful to me.

It sounds like Lists is basically like that but allows me to follow multiple topics like that. It does however seem to require a different app than the official Twitter app, so I'll have to play around with it some more if there is another topic I care to follow on Twitter about.

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by leephillips on Friday May 28, 2021 @07:28PM (#27321699)
You can use lists from the standard interface, just not quite as conveniently. Also, Tweetdeck is an official Twitter client. I think it used to be a third party app, and they bought it.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by lobocinza on Saturday May 29, 2021 @01:06AM (#27323173)
Or notifications. I was using Twitter kind of read only and it kept showing me fake notifications that were in fact trending tweets from pop developers I have no wish to follow.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by snowwrestler on Friday May 28, 2021 @09:32PM (#27322389)
I used to have these issues don’t seem to anymore. For example I used to have to switch my timeline back to Latest every so often. But I realize now that I can’t remember the last time I had to do that.

I also don’t seem to get weird tweets anymore and I just remembered that I added some weird strings to my mute list at the suggestion of someone else on Twitter. I Googled a few and apparently this is a thing? There’s an article in Vice about it, for what that is worth:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kz9ez/go-into-2020-by-takin...

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by prawn on Saturday May 29, 2021 @01:54AM (#27323337)
On desktop, I use https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/ which has no ads, is chronological and doesn't suggest tweets or people to follow. You can set up columns for various accounts, etc.

On mobile, I think it stopped reverting to non-chronological for me many months ago. My suggested follows are typically friends/kids of friends. Like GP of this thread, my experience with Twitter is positive but I only follow about 100 people. Main criticism is that with a curated list, it can be a bit of a wasteland sometimes - either rarely new tweets to see, or you post something to generate discussion and get nothing.

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by barrucadu on Saturday May 29, 2021 @07:06AM (#27324449)
> (and the dark pattern where if you switch to chronological it automatically switches back after time)

I see people complain about this a lot, but I've not experienced this. Is it a mobile thing? On my computer I got put into the algorithmic feed once, when they launched it I guess, then I changed it to "latest" and it's still like that today.

Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by Mindwipe on Wednesday June 02, 2021 @11:44AM (#27370019)
It certainly happened on the desktop, but several Twitter devs said they were going to stop doing it publicly so it seems like it has. Or at least that it eventually sticks.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by paulgb on Saturday May 29, 2021 @07:25AM (#27324538)
Another commenter points out it stopped happening to them, so maybe it’s no longer the case. I do remember it happening on mobile, though.
Re:Twitter confirms Twitter Blue by joncrane on Saturday May 29, 2021 @01:40AM (#27323293)
First the algorithmic timeline (and the dark pattern where if you switch to chronological it automatically switches back after time)

Straight out of FB's playbook, I see.