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Re:The Pi Manifesto by scythe on Tuesday July 05, 2011 @04:24PM (#2731405)
>They're both eminently simple concepts, but they remain obscured by π.

They are equally obscured by tau, or whatever other arc-length you might choose! The meaning does not depend on the definition of a circle but on the properties of the exponential function:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%27s_formula#Proofs

As for sin(x), it is a function based on circles and arc lengths, but specific values of arc length do not enter the definition.

Re:The Pi Manifesto by ianterrell on Tuesday July 05, 2011 @04:58PM (#2731537)
> The meaning does not depend on the definition of a circle but on the properties of the exponential function

Actually, you can go backwards and say that its circular properties define the exponential function. Euler's formula describes the rotation of the unit vector through the imaginary plane.

> As for sin(x)...specific values of arc length do not enter the definition

It's not about the definition, it's about the meaning. Sin(x) is the height of the circle at x radians. And it's super awesome with tau: one tau is full circle, and one period.

Re:The Pi Manifesto by scythe on Tuesday July 05, 2011 @05:42PM (#2731717)
>And it's super awesome with tau: one tau is full circle, and one period.

Well, if you've already made the jump to understanding negative heights as going below the real line. This is a topic for an introductory course in geometry? When I learned about sine and cosine, it was first defined in terms of SOHCAHTOA!