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Re:The history of lab leaks by 0xy on Friday May 28, 2021 @05:37AM (#27313353)
Firstly, they were doing gain-of-function research, ergo it's absolutely "Chinese created".

Secondly, the lab in question was recklessly negligent. The videos of scientists holding bats with plastic gloves, stories that some scientists were bitten by bats and more.

Reckless negligence slips into responsibility area for me. Like if someone gets behind the wheel with a 0.15 blood alcohol concentration, which is what the Chinese lab did after multiple safety scares from 2017-2020.

Additionally, Dr Fauci personally approved funding to the negligent laboratory and then lied in Congress when questioned about gain-of-function research, covering up his personal involvement.

There's criminal negligence here, it's not a chance mishap. Not to mention the cover up.

Re:The history of lab leaks by sergiomattei on Friday May 28, 2021 @12:10PM (#27317166)
By "Chinese created", most people likely refer to the subtext of a bioweapon.
Re:The history of lab leaks by 0xy on Saturday May 29, 2021 @12:04AM (#27322945)
That's your definition, it doesn't meet the definition of the words nor my definition.

By performing gain-of-function research, this particular virus would not have existed by itself. Ergo, the Chinese lab created the virus.

Making any modification to the virus' function means you are the subsequent creator of it. Nature has nothing to do with it once you've got it in a lab and start messing around with it.

"Chinese created" does not mean "Chinese weaponised". There's no evidence nor suggestion that this was deliberate or even that the gain-of-function research was for nefarious purposes. To suggest otherwise is to strawman.

Re:The history of lab leaks by sergiomattei on Saturday May 29, 2021 @05:39PM (#27328432)
I'm aware and I agree with you, I'm just saying that in the eyes of the general public that's the notion going around.