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Re:The history of lab leaks by galangalalgol on Thursday May 27, 2021 @11:50PM (#27311538)
Given that china needs a smaller population and Japan and the EU need to maintain a dwindling one, the motivations are there. But china somehow seems to have kept cases insanely low, so that doesn't really hold. People have suggested the Chinese death toll is actually much higher but I've read no real evidence of that. Is it also possible living close enough to the zoonotic origin some level of immunity to similar viruses became common there?
Re:The history of lab leaks by someperson on Friday May 28, 2021 @12:18AM (#27311681)
China doesn't need a smaller population, it's actively trying to increase birth rates after 35 years of the One Child Policy caused a demographic catastrophe. The population projects are for a declining to below 1 billion people (potentially as low as 700 million by 2100)

The evidence of deaths in Wuhan being 10 times officially reported numbers (of 4,000) is very strong, based on analysis of crematoriums. The same is actually true of India too (which fared much worse than China).

Re:The history of lab leaks by AdamJacobMuller on Friday May 28, 2021 @12:32AM (#27311756)
> People have suggested the Chinese death toll is actually much higher but I've read no real evidence of that

Even if the chinese death toll was 10x or 100x reported (40k or 400k) it would be a tiny drop in the bucket of chinese population and I find it hard to believe that the death toll could be inflated 1000x or 10000x or more to any number which has any meaningful impact on the chinese population without that information leaking.

I'm sure the official figures are fabrications, but, I don't think they are THAT wrong.