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Re:The cost of cloud, a trillion dollar paradox by taneq on Thursday May 27, 2021 @06:59PM (#27309658)
Aren’t the real figures more like $200 vs. $700? Cloud stuff only really makes sense when your resource requirements as super spiky.

100% agree on shifting capex to opex though, capital works teams are super in favour of that, oddly enough.

Re:The cost of cloud, a trillion dollar paradox by rualca on Friday May 28, 2021 @02:05PM (#27318599)
> Aren’t the real figures more like $200 vs. $700?

No, not really. You can hardly find old used servers for less than 1000$, and you need to use beyond a a1.metal instance with 16vCPU and 32GB of RAM to even come close to that cost

> Cloud stuff only really makes sense when your resource requirements as super spiky.

No, not really. Cloud stuff makes all the sense in the world if all you need is a VM connected to the internet working 24h/day without problems. You can get that for less than 5$ a month, which would require 3 or 4 years to pay back if instead you waste your money on hardware.

Re:The cost of cloud, a trillion dollar paradox by taneq on Friday May 28, 2021 @08:28PM (#27322068)
Not my experience but ymmv (and clearly has).

> You can hardly find old used servers for less than 1000$

I picked up a second hand Dell PowerEdge 610 with 96GB of RAM for $400 AU, it's overkill by a large factor for what I need but damn. Either I was super lucky or servers aren't (weren't?) expensive.

> You can get that for less than 5$ a month pocket change and host it

Until you actually use it and then it ramps up rapidly to the point where you'd be far better off just buying a server.

Re:The cost of cloud, a trillion dollar paradox by tatersolid on Sunday May 30, 2021 @07:02AM (#27332316)
Good luck getting spares, patched BIOS/firmware, patched DRAC, or anything else resembling support for that old Dell in a timely fashion.

And good luck selling to enterprises when the vulnerability scanner lights up like a Christmas tree with critical and un-patchable flaws on your switches/routers/UPS/PDUs/storage arrays/servers/door locks/cooling system/fire suppression/cameras. Double for the DR site. Because you need all that stuff, and you have to maintain it all 24x7 which means lots of salaries.