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Re:Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side by peteretep on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @10:07PM (#27285324)
> It was always a war of independence, first from France and then from the US.

The Vietnam War is largely considered to be 1955-1975. The French were out by 1954, and American troops in any number were there from 1965 to 1973.

> 20 years of fighting primarily western troops with a fig leaf of local rule.

5x to 7x as many South Vietnamese troops died compared to Americans, who had combat troops there for less than half of those 20 years.

Re:Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side by refenestrator on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @10:11PM (#27285356)
Dienbienphu was in 1954, just for starters.
Re:Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side by peteretep on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @10:14PM (#27285375)
> Dienbienphu was in 1954, just for starters.

Yes, that's the reason the French were out in 1954.

Re:Vietnam War images from the North Vietnamese side by refenestrator on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @10:17PM (#27285394)
It was the same people on the north vietnamese side all throughout this entire multi-decade period, from the early 1940s till the mid-70s. They fought a rotating cast of western-backed fig leaf local rulers. I'm not sure what else I can tell you, here.