Sure, I was aware of the increase in ideation and attempts but we were talking about excess deaths. I don’t like it when articles use percentages and omit the absolute numbers which are also important to give a sense of scale.

Suicide is a serious issue and shouldn’t be ignored. We should also apply the same logic to suicides as people are applying to covid - would these people have tried suicide anyway but covid/lockdown just brought it forward? Will we therefore have a drop in attempts now to mirror the spike up?

You're cherry picking numbers.

While a children's hospital in Colorado might have reported a 90% increase, across the whole of the US suicides were down 5%.

As far as I know, most countries are reporting an overall drop in suicides during the pandemic.