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Re:App Store Arguments by gjsman-1000 on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:16PM (#27280292)
"People could just stop using Facebook entirely."

If people are still using Facebook, today, knowing all that has happened, the odds are most people will continue using it though one can dream. I would honestly expect 90%+ of Facebook users to sideload if Facebook required it.

"But what about other areas? I don't want one single company dictating what I can or can't use on my device."

If you told this to an Apple Engineer, he'd look at you in the eye and tell you that the iPhone isn't for you and to buy an Android. You have that choice. The iPhone doesn't fit your use case and Apple isn't interested in making it fit your use case.

Re:App Store Arguments by arvinsim on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @09:44PM (#27285168)
> If you told this to an Apple Engineer, he'd look at you in the eye and tell you that the iPhone isn't for you and to buy an Android. You have that choice. The iPhone doesn't fit your use case and Apple isn't interested in making it fit your use case.

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Re:App Store Arguments by slantyyz on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @03:01PM (#27280914)
> If people are still using Facebook, today, knowing all that has happened, the odds are most people will continue using it though one can dream. I would honestly expect 90%+ of Facebook users to sideload if Facebook required it.

Why sideload when you can simply open it up in any mobile browser?

Re:App Store Arguments by smoldesu on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:38PM (#27280562)
> If you told this to an Apple Engineer, he'd look at you in the eye and tell you that the iPhone isn't for you and to buy an Android.

Easy solution for Apple then: stop selling things labelled as "pro". I was already burned when I bought the 16 inch Macbook Pro, which was a shockingly incapable and undocumented device. Lenovo provides better documentation on their entry level laptops than Apple provides for their Pros, despite the order of magnitude difference in price between both devices. So to the "Apple Engineer" out there, I'd encourage you give people the choice anyways.

In other words, North Korea doesn't justify their atrocities by telling the rest of the world that their culture "isn't for them". Apple is no less accountable for their own product line, particularly when they're some of the most profitable electronic hardware being manufactured right now.

Re:App Store Arguments by gjsman-1000 on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:45PM (#27280669)
Comparing North Korea, a government, with a public company in a free society makes no sense and disrespects the real atrocities the North Korean people are experiencing, because you are comparing their suffering to problems you have with your laptop, which is appalling.

As for the term "pro" - nobody agrees what "pro" means. An art designer might do professional work on a MacBook Air, even though you wouldn't call that a "pro" machine. Although you might not like the terminology, you should have been able to research and know what you were getting, and it still absolutely does not bear the comparison to North Korea. First world problems compared to third world tyranny.

Re:App Store Arguments by vineyardmike on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @09:12PM (#27284933)
> Easy solution for Apple then: stop selling things labelled as "pro".

Easy solution for you: Accept that its not for you, even if you think you're "pro". Its just a word for marketing. You're the one with a problem in search of solution, apple is not.

Re:App Store Arguments by bardworx on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:47PM (#27280696)
You just compared a company that sells a product to an autocratic regime…

That’s, a bit of a stretch.