Yes! That time I wanted to learn Rust every time I saw a complicated closure my mental parser/linter crashed (from a lifetime C developer PoV).
I don't understand how a function that is defined in-place is more clear than a nice function on its own. Perhaps because it gives a sense of continuity (like in async code), but man, it's really painful to read (at least to me). In fact, if I have to write some Rust right now, all my closures would be defined elsewhere, whenever possible.
I guess someone coming from only C might not have encountered closures, but most languages have them these days (modern javascript code uses them everywhere), and I don't think they should be considered especially advanced. "How do closures work?" Was a question I was expected to know how to answer when going for my first ever junior programming job with zero professional experience (and no CS degree either).
Someone coming from C also would certainly know about the difference between the stack and the heap too, so it's a little strange to me that GP called that out
Why?
A lot of embedded code NEVER calls malloc (thus the need for no_std in Rust). Consequently, you can go a long way in embedded without really knowing the difference between stack and heap.
"Embedded programmer" does not imply "Linux Kernel Hacker".
Re:Writing Pythonic Rust
by throwaway894345 on Monday May 24, 2021 @08:42PM
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There’s a pretty wide chasm between kernel hackers and people who have used malloc before. :) And an embedded programmer ought to have the ability to intuit (a naive) malloc on their own (you can have malloc without a kernel).
> might be my bias coming from a more functional background before learning Rust
This is exactly the problem. The people I'm dealing with are coming from "imperative land" and haven't had a functional background. Someone stepping up to Rust as "C with memory safety" does not have any of that functional background.
Please do remember that a "closure" is built on a lot of prior abstractions. What is a "scope"? What is "variable capture"? What is "heap" and "stack"? Why does that matter here and not normally?
No programming language is only used by experts, and Rust is no exception.
The issue is that "spawn" smacks you with a bunch of that baggage all at once.