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Re:Gen Z is going to have a hard time getting rich by skissane on Monday May 24, 2021 @04:10PM (#27269123)
Where I live (Australia), the biggest issue is the massive bubble in property prices. Housing affordability has gotten a lot worse over the last few decades. Arguably it has produced a massive wealth transfer from the younger to older generations. I guess inevitably that is going to be partially reversed when those older generations pass on, and leave some of their accumulated wealth to their children. But inheritance is a very uneven process – some people have more children than others, some people spend a lot more in their retirement than others, some people live a lot longer than others (which can lead to much of their accumulated wealth being spent on aged care), etc.

However I do feel like we are transitioning from a society in which each generation was expected to make it mostly on their own (with at best a little bit of help from their parents), to one with a much greater emphasis on inherited wealth. I think as well as property bubbles, another factor is shrinking family sizes. When the average family had 5+ kids, the children couldn't expect to inherit that much. Families with only 1 or 2 kids, the child can inherit a lot more. And even prior to inheritance, it is much easier to extend financial support to your children (such as helping them to buy a home in their 20s) when you only have 1 or 2 instead of 4, 5, 6, 7...

Re:Gen Z is going to have a hard time getting rich by quacked on Monday May 24, 2021 @04:13PM (#27269152)
I lack your optimism; when they pass on, their houses will be transferred to small- and big-time rental companies, who will rent their houses to young people for more than a mortgage would cost.

The only hope, in my opinion, is a giant, propaganda-driven cultural movement away from money and towards societal stability.

Re:Gen Z is going to have a hard time getting rich by skissane on Monday May 24, 2021 @04:43PM (#27269477)
In Australia, the tax system favours private individual ownership of residential properties over corporate ownership.

Property developers are allowed to keep ownership of new developments (so-called "build-to-rent"), or sell the new development (on a single title) to an investment trust. But corporations buying pre-existing house stock, without plans to redevelop it, are at a tax disadvantage compared to individual owners.

I don't think corporations are quite as powerful as you think. Certainly not in Australia. At the end of the day, individuals vote, corporations can't. Governments win elections by appealing to voters, not appealing to corporations. Indeed, almost all of the negative aspects of Australia's housing policies have come about through appealing to individual voters–the older generations who own a lot of property, the "aspirational middle class" who want to own a lot of property too, the "Mum & Dad investors", the professional class (property investment is popular with doctors and lawyers and I believe even software engineers), the small business owner class, etc–rather than being driven by corporate interests.

Re:Gen Z is going to have a hard time getting rich by structural on Monday May 24, 2021 @05:51PM (#27270111)
What's also interesting is that transportation & communication are very much easier than they were for past generations. This is also combined with shorter times that a worker stays at a single job before moving on for another opportunity. Put all this together and nobody wants to stay in a single house for 10+ years, or even in the same city for that length of time: at this point, buying a house would be counterproductive -- even if you could afford it -- because the transaction costs eat you alive.

For these reasons, a lot of us younger generation folks actually value a high-quality rental property more than buying exactly that same house. [Yes, sure, you buy the house and you'll eventually pay it off, but you'd be surprised how many people don't believe they will be able to afford to retire at all, much less accumulate any wealth whatsoever.]

Re:Gen Z is going to have a hard time getting rich by skissane on Monday May 24, 2021 @07:03PM (#27270707)
> Put all this together and nobody wants to stay in a single house for 10+ years, or even in the same city for that length of time

It can change when (and if) you have kids.

Uprooting our kids to move somewhere else is going to be a burden on them. I experienced that burden as a child, I don’t want to visit it on my own children unless it is (in other ways) a really compelling proposition. Especially as parent of a child with a neurodevelopmental disorder, who I know would find the disruption harder than the average child would

Re:Gen Z is going to have a hard time getting rich by flukus on Monday May 24, 2021 @08:17PM (#27271267)
> I guess inevitably that is going to be partially reversed when those older generations pass on, and leave some of their accumulated wealth to their children

By being tied up in property the timing of this is hardly ideal though. The costs in housing was paid when I was young, the transfer back will be after my mortgage is paid off and my main use of this transfer will be to fund my retirement. In turn I'll be relying on these investments to fund retirement and if I live long enough the next generation won't get any of my wealth until they're older and don't need it so much.

What would be a better way (other than cash) to transfer some of this wealth when the next generation is younger and need it more?

Re:Gen Z is going to have a hard time getting rich by skissane on Monday May 24, 2021 @10:04PM (#27271910)
> What would be a better way (other than cash) to transfer some of this wealth when the next generation is younger and need it more?

Some parents give guarantees to their children's mortgages, or buy property jointly with their children. I think it comes down to a couple of factors (1) the wealthier you are, and the fewer children you have, the more sustainable this is; (2) cultural attitudes differ between different families (and between cultural/ethnic groups) in terms of whether parents ought to do this, or instead leave their adult children to fend for themselves.