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Re:Why did bar ends go away from mountain bikes? by charles_f on Monday May 24, 2021 @12:56PM (#27266757)
> I think the claim about de-emphasizing climbing is BS.

Depends on what you use. Cross Country have much less compromise than enduros. On these, descent is the priority though, that's why you get slacker and slacker frames every year, heavy suspension systems and large tires that weigh the same as a dead elephant. The best sign that they're getting closer is that I'm feeling fine with going to the bike park in Whistler with my enduro, which I'd never have tried 10y ago.

Of course going up is always important and all these are not an entire sacrifice, powertrains are much better than they used to, locking sus actually works, and don't get me started with droppers!

But try to go up on a light hardtail retrobike sometimes, and then down. These were optimized for ups

Re:Why did bar ends go away from mountain bikes? by bigfudge on Monday May 24, 2021 @04:17PM (#27269199)
Are powertrains really much better? I have retro shimsno lx on one bike and it’s really not much different to current slx in terms of shifting perf. Ratios not so good admittedly and triples look fugly!
Re:Why did bar ends go away from mountain bikes? by ianhowson on Monday May 24, 2021 @04:23PM (#27269266)
Powertrains are much, much better.

- You can shift under load (usually)

- Shifts are a little faster

- Clutches give less chainslap

- Narrow-wide rings hold the chain freakishly well