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Re:One man’s fight for the right to repair broken MacBooks by snowwrestler on Sunday May 23, 2021 @11:10PM (#27260768)
IP theft easily satisfies the quoted definition in your first paragraph. That’s why you had to add an additional “key difference” in your last paragraph.

That “key difference” is what got invented in the early 2000s as part of a concerted effort to justify IP theft. It was never part of the definition of theft before, and indeed it makes no sense; if you steal a Snickers bar from a store, you have not deprived them of the use of the Snickers bar because they never intended to use it themselves. What you have really deprived them of is the opportunity to sell it. So does stealing IP.

Re:One man’s fight for the right to repair broken MacBooks by markdown on Sunday May 23, 2021 @11:30PM (#27260855)
Stealing a part made in a shop isn't stealing IP. Stealing schematics and methods would be, but not finished products.
Re:One man’s fight for the right to repair broken MacBooks by irjustin on Monday May 24, 2021 @12:02AM (#27260988)
And it's not stealing in the strictest sense. it was sold.

The manufacturer of the chip made an extra 10k of product to sell on the side, which is a breach of contract.

But no theft occurred because the manufacturer is supposed to have the schematics.

Legally a rather annoying, wordy space to live in for sure.

Re:One man’s fight for the right to repair broken MacBooks by dragonwriter on Monday May 24, 2021 @03:27AM (#27261828)
> Stealing a part made in a shop isn't stealing IP. Stealing schematics and methods would be, but not finished products.

Actually, all of that is stealing physical, not intellectual property. Intellectual property is not the right to physical possession, so even to the extent that it can be said to be “stolen” (violation of IP rights are more like trespass than theft) taking physical objects in which it is in one form or another embodied into one’s possession isn’t it.

Re:One man’s fight for the right to repair broken MacBooks by ngc248 on Monday May 24, 2021 @03:04AM (#27261720)
How is this not stealing ... Its like i gave you money/raw materials to do something for me. you skim off it and sell it off it is stealing. May not be a legally valid term, but it is stealing.