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Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by iamAy0 on Sunday May 23, 2021 @11:15AM (#27255534)
I've reading about this "security professionals shortage" for quite some years, yet the reality is that there is no such shortage.

And I think this is even expandable now to any IT field. People keep saying about shortage, but what I do see is exhausting hiring process most people just don't want to deal with.

Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by hirundo on Sunday May 23, 2021 @11:30AM (#27255675)
"Shortage" is a synonym for "costs more than I'd like to pay for it".
Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by closeparen on Sunday May 23, 2021 @11:55AM (#27255933)
Competing harder for the limited pool of competent security people might redistribute breaches away from your company onto others. From a local perspective this could be rational but as a society we want to be less vulnerable in aggregate.

(Although there I think the IT operations side is vastly overblown and not nearly enough attention is paid to quality control on the most popular software packages. Want to make every business substantially more secure at once? Take a hard look at Windows Server, Exchange, etc).

Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by nitwit005 on Sunday May 23, 2021 @06:46PM (#27259335)
The pool is never truly limited though. Every industry was at one time tiny and had to train people to do the job.

But, training costs money, so they hope some other company will do it for them.

Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by souprock on Sunday May 23, 2021 @09:57PM (#27260427)
I'd say "costs more than the median income" is closer. Adjust for legitimate training costs that are incurred by the workers, and it might be a pretty good definition.
Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by missedthecue on Sunday May 23, 2021 @12:47PM (#27256452)
Paying more just means you fill your vacancy at the expense of another firm who has their employee poached. The net effect is that one company is still vulnerable.
Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by rdiddly on Sunday May 23, 2021 @02:01PM (#27257082)
They are all in this together? Paying more means you fill your vacancy.

Edit: The cheapskate can follow suit and maybe that convinces one person to undertake the 8-week cert. No more shortage. Or maybe they don't pay more and are DDoS'd out of business. Again, no more shortage.

Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by MrMorden on Monday May 24, 2021 @12:09AM (#27261022)
There are at least one million people in the US who have more than enough experience for an entry-level cybersecurity position; all they need is a few weeks of training (to start) and an employer that isn't demanding twenty years of experience and a CISSP for $50k with crap healthcare and inadequate PTO.

Also, employees are not some company's property. At-will employment goes two ways, and if you want to treat them as if they were property you may as well just turn off the lights now because it will not end well.

Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by sjg007 on Monday May 24, 2021 @01:14PM (#27267013)
>There are at least one million people in the US who have more than enough experience for an entry-level cybersecurity position

What's the base requirement for these people?

Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by fmajid on Sunday May 23, 2021 @01:10PM (#27256645)
It also creates supply, e.g. software developers in a related field deciding to switch careers.
Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by ipaddr on Sunday May 23, 2021 @01:35PM (#27256846)
Or another country or another industry or encourages others to join the field.
Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by Covzire on Sunday May 23, 2021 @11:44AM (#27255810)
The security industry is unique in how much and how quickly it changes. There are two kinds of companies that hire infosec professionals in my experience: Those that understand that change and the resulting need to plug their employees into the industry training pipeline, invest in their active learning and those that don't. Those that don't more often than not have laughable or terribly unbalanced job descriptions where they're willing to pay decently well but demand a golden platypus riding a unicorn, and those types of hires might have a shortage indeed.
Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by hn8788 on Sunday May 23, 2021 @11:30AM (#27255669)
The hiring process is definitely an issue. Cybersecurity is new enough that HR has no idea what they want, so they require useless certifications like CEH, and a college degree in CS. There's also a wide variation in what Cybersecurity even means. Some college cybersecurity programs are all about policy and compliance, while some focus on offensive security and vulnerability analysis.
Re:U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity by isbvhodnvemrwvn on Sunday May 23, 2021 @01:25PM (#27256766)
Often it's not HR that writes these job adverts, it's the managers. HR is just a middleman.