Wayland: “Move fast and break things” as a moral imperative

Re:Wayland: “Move fast and break things” as a moral imperative by aeQu5igh on Sunday May 23, 2021 @06:28AM (#27253947)

This is the first time I made a throwaway account, not because I care about my karma, but because I don't want wayland devs and distro maintainers to trace this back to me or the projects I contribute to.

Wayland has been a nightmare to support, and supporting it usually means having a bunch of wlroots-specific, kwin-specific, and gnome-specific code, and just forgetting about weston, the so called reference implementation.

Certain distros have switched to wayland as the "default" desktop without upgrading application software to link against wayland, and we are now getting bug reports from distro users that are specific to xwayland.

Sway is the most standards-compliant compositor, but I can't expect users to install it when something is broken on gnome 3. A lot of application software was ported to gnome 3 specifically, using gnome-specific protocols, so switching back to Xorg is sometimes easier than switching from gnome to sway.

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Re:Wayland: “Move fast and break things” as a moral imperative by throwawaybutwhy on Sunday May 23, 2021 @07:01AM (#27254107)

> This is the first time I made a throwaway account, not because I care about my karma, but because I don't want wayland devs and distro maintainers to trace this back to me or the projects I contribute to.

This is not normal. This is as close to an abusive relationship as it gets.

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Re:Wayland: “Move fast and break things” as a moral imperative by hawski on Sunday May 23, 2021 @06:42AM (#27254012)

Could you give an example what needs those three code paths? I'm just an outside observer. I'll probably switch to Wayland when Xfce will.

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