Wayland: “Move fast and break things” as a moral imperative

Re:Wayland: “Move fast and break things” as a moral imperative by gmueckl on Sunday May 23, 2021 @06:06AM (#27253803)

Good for you, but that's merely anecdotal evidence. From the limited data that is available, it appears that more than half of the desktop Linux installations run nvidia GPUs. Wayland is pretty much out on those. And the rest needs to run a distribution that supports wayland and activate it. So wayland simply hasn't reached its goal of replacing Xorg by a long shot.

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Re:Wayland: “Move fast and break things” as a moral imperative by vetinari on Sunday May 23, 2021 @07:07AM (#27254136)

> From the limited data that is available, it appears that more than half of the desktop Linux installations run nvidia GPUs.

Where did you get that data? Nvidia doesn't even have that kind of market share (Intel absolutely rules there).

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Re:Wayland: “Move fast and break things” as a moral imperative by mqus on Sunday May 23, 2021 @08:56AM (#27254686)

I also had doubts but there are statistics (arguably not representative) that seem to confirm this: https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/fun (See GPU drivers and add(might not be the best idea, I know) the nvidia numbers...)

It might be machine learning stuff which heavily leans into nvidia hardware

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Re:Wayland: “Move fast and break things” as a moral imperative by vetinari on Monday May 24, 2021 @07:31AM (#27263159)

Just adding them all goes way beyond 100%, so it really is not the best idea.

In general, the market share (as in GPUs sold, in total, for all systems, not just Linux) was around 70% Intel, 17% Nvidia and 13% AMD. This was before GPUs turned into inobtaniums, so I guess Nvidia and AMD didn't improve their positions much.

Yes, there are ML guys on the Linux side, but that could be compensated by gamers on the Windows side, so I assume that if anything, Windows would have more share of Nvidia than Linux. Miners don't really care for desktop.

There is a place where Nvidia achieved significant share - it has 70% in Steam hardware survey. That is to be expected, gamers are heavily biased towards Nvidia.

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Re:Wayland: “Move fast and break things” as a moral imperative by kaba0 on Sunday May 23, 2021 @06:08AM (#27253815)

Wayland Gnome (and plasma) runs on nvidia gpus as well. But the fact is, linux, the kernel doesn’t support nvidia cards without proprietary blobs, hardly anything to do with Wayland.

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