Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my iCloud data?

Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by bellyfullofbac on Saturday May 22, 2021 @10:48AM (#27247031)

Are you American? Do you excuse the migrant holding camps, with its toddler separation? I can see your mind turning gears to come up with reasons why you think those are fine...

Where do we draw the line of what sort of "camp" is humane?

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Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by dtx1 on Saturday May 22, 2021 @10:52AM (#27247075)

I'm not american i'm german. We know a thing or too about concentration camps. And yes i wouldn't have visited america under trump and wouldn't visit them now either.

Where i draw the line is when criminals get their fair day in a court vs getting in a camp for being muslim.

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Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by WarOnPrivacy on Saturday May 22, 2021 @11:19AM (#27247355)

> Where i draw the line is when criminals get their fair day in a court

This falsely implies that laws are consistently just, strongly benefit society in evidence-based ways, aren't regularly composed by lobbyists or in response to party politics and are applied equally.

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Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by dtx1 on Saturday May 22, 2021 @11:31AM (#27247469)

This implies that all courts are equal and Theres no difference between chinese concentration camps and for example the swedish prison system

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Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by WarOnPrivacy on Saturday May 22, 2021 @12:01PM (#27247765)

> This implies that all courts are equal

LOL. It doesn't imply that at all. It repeatedly hints at corruption in justice systems.

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Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by bellyfullofbac on Sunday May 23, 2021 @06:22AM (#27253910)

So, how do you feel about those those German-taxpayer-funded refugee holding camps in Turkey, and the German funded Libyan coast guard?

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Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by dtx1 on Sunday May 23, 2021 @08:47AM (#27254646)

I feel great about them because the reality is the choice between funding these holding camps or doing nothing at all like most countries. Germany took in literal boatloads of refugees and still helper turkey with their cost. Could we have done better&more? Fuck yeah, but you'll be hard pressed to find a country that did more for the refugee crisis than Germany

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Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by bellyfullofbac on Sunday May 23, 2021 @12:10PM (#27256083)

Yeah, see, you're just spinning this "let's accept Erdogan's blackmail and give him 6 billion euroes" as a positive thing ("We did good!"), and ignoring all the shit aspects.

People are always so biased...

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Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by yesenadam on Monday May 24, 2021 @01:28AM (#27261337)

> People are always so biased...

Except you?

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Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by true_religion on Sunday May 23, 2021 @07:46AM (#27254336)

You have to make an exemption for your home nation or else you are committing yourself to becoming a refugee instead of fighting for change within your country.

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Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by honkdaddy on Saturday May 22, 2021 @10:54AM (#27247088)

Surely one can be against both?

What the CCP is doing to the Uyghur population in China is modern genocide, full stop. No amount of whataboutism or America-blaming can change that.

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Re:Ask HN: If I travel to China, does China have all of my i... by bellyfullofbac on Sunday May 23, 2021 @06:19AM (#27253896)

Sure, but a lot of times people rage against one and find excuses why the other is acceptable, making them a hypocrite who thinks they're very moral...

I suppose I'm also just defending my own stance, which is awareness of shit happening around the world, but a "what am I going to do about it" laziness borne out of convenience.

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