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Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by iab on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:08PM (#27242610)
It used to be common knowledge, was debunked, and will be re-bunked?
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Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by AussieWog93 on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:38PM (#27242820)
Are they hate crimes, or just crimes? As in, are the perpetrators engaging in these assaults because they have a specific hatred of Asians or are they just acting in a barbaric way in general and an Asian person happened to be in the way?

I mean that as a genuine question - the videos I've seen have all been ambiguous on this fact.

Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by noofen on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:46PM (#27242866)
The videos I've seen often include the perpetrator yelling racial slurs at the victim and telling them to "go back where they came from."

[1]: see 1:17 https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/mnys...

[2]: see 0:29 https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/mcjj...

[3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/mibr...

[4]: bystanders laughing https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/md8r...

[5]: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoahGetTheBoat/comments/n5y1av/man_...

[6]: https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/mal4...

[7]: "you don't belong here" + curbstomp https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/mg5m...

Of course, will these be charged as hate crimes? Doubtful.

Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by Judgmentality on Friday May 21, 2021 @11:16PM (#27243055)
I'm not taking a side here, but I am impressed with your dedication to this conversation.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by noofen on Friday May 21, 2021 @11:30PM (#27243139)
I don't want to come off as a reactionary. I just want to find the truth and see where it leads, irregardless of political fashion trends.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by AussieWog93 on Friday May 21, 2021 @11:54PM (#27243280)
Jesus, those people are horrible. I don't know what to say, I haven't seen those videos before.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by renewiltord on Saturday May 22, 2021 @04:35AM (#27244696)
If, for some reason, there were disproportionate outcomes based on race, one could reasonably question why this doesn’t count as “systemic racism”.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by yladiz on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:07PM (#27242601)
Citation needed, especially in context with the comment talking about American vs Kiwi people.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by postsantum on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:21PM (#27242708)
Citations on this topic haven't been doing well the last couple of decades. See what happened to James Watson
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Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by mushbino on Saturday May 22, 2021 @02:02AM (#27243949)
Where in this analysis do they account for slavery, Jim Crowe, mass incarceration, redlining, systemic racism, etc?

Or is the feeling that these things have no significant impact?

Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by noofen on Sunday May 23, 2021 @03:01PM (#27257583)
How do you account for it? Just give them more money?

Rich African Americans commit crimes at a higher rate than Asians and Whites at the same socioeconomic level.

Irish people haven't had a particularly pleasant past either, and you don't see people making excuses for them.

Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by mushbino on Tuesday May 25, 2021 @02:33AM (#27273535)
Massive investments in black communities. Comparing the treatment of the Irish to 400 years of institutionalized chattel slavery is absurd on its face. Also, again, ignoring everything else I mentioned. Some books you should check out to learn more about this. The New Jim Crow and The Color of Money. Black communities have been chronically underfunded, underserved, over-policed, and segregated for the entire history of our country.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by maroonblazer on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:32PM (#27242780)
They're also poorly explained by genetics, as evidenced by the blog you cited.
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Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by runako on Saturday May 22, 2021 @12:13AM (#27243376)
Occam would likely object to being left out of the conversation. Perhaps there's a more obvious reason for some of the differences in our society.

Without going into too much detail, consider that the millennial generation of African Americans is the first generation in the country's history to be granted full citizenship rights at birth. (The beginning of Gen X was born into a legally segregated society.) Might that have an impact? If you do not believe the impact is material, it would be reasonable to ask you to explain why.

Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge by renewiltord on Saturday May 22, 2021 @04:36AM (#27244704)
> * the millennial generation of African Americans is the first generation in the country's history to be granted full citizenship rights at birth *

Well, now that’s a fact to marvel at. Wow.