Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge
by khuey on Friday May 21, 2021 @08:27PM
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To most voters "a misdemeanor" is not equivalent to "totally legal" but yet that's how the police and district attorneys have chosen to treat it.
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This is the most concerning aspect, why do police feel that only felonies are worth their time?
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge
by maxlybbert on Saturday May 22, 2021 @12:29AM
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The police arrest, gather information, and pass the file to the prosecutor. If the prosecutor decides to drop the case, the police have no say.
If the police hand hundreds of cases to the prosecutor only to have the prosecutor refuse to pursue them, the police get the message.
Why doesn't the DA pursue these cases? San Francisco elects their DA. One could even imagine starting a recall campaign over a refusal to prosecute misdemeanors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_San_Francisco_District_At...
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge
by maxlybbert on Saturday May 22, 2021 @01:12PM
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Years ago, I ran across the statement that democracy guarantees voters get the government they deserve. I didn’t take it seriously at the time, but I’ve come around. San Francisco will change when the voters insist on it, but I don’t expect that any time soon.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge
by 5560675260 on Sunday May 23, 2021 @09:51AM
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Each time I hear about this I'm baffled that not prosecuting is a legal option for DA.
Because non-felons are back in store taking stuff before the officers can finish the arrest paperwork.
Repeat offenses don't escalate the charges in SF?
No, repeat misdemeanors of this sort don't escalate charges anywhere in California, since there is no law for that. And the SF DA certainly wouldn't care to escalate charges for repeat offenders even if he could.
If it gets escalated, then it’s no longer a misdemeanor, and worth considering :-)
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge
by upbeatlinux on Friday May 21, 2021 @09:17PM
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They don't. Their hand cuffed by Prop 47 and the apt but misdirected antics of defund the police.
My understanding of prop 47 reduced up charging and limited non violent theft to a misdemeanor offense. To my knowledge it doesn’t block enforcement of misdemeanor crimes.
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge
by upbeatlinux on Friday May 21, 2021 @09:21PM
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I suppose we can take this further and say prop 47 attempts to address symptoms because of a failure to agree on what the problems are (what problems should we be talking about).
Re:San Francisco’s Shoplifting Surge
by closeparen on Saturday May 22, 2021 @01:09AM
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How much intersection do you think there is between people who shoplift at CVS and people who have something to lose if they get a fine?
I don't think they "feel" that way more as it is an economical decision. If you have more work coming in than you have allocated resources for, there are decisions that have to get made.
Summed up and very simplified obviously, but eh.