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Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by newacct583 on Friday May 21, 2021 @04:00PM (#27239179)
This is sort of weirdly spun. In fact in Seattle we saw exactly what happens when a bunch of local yahoos decide to try to police themselves. How exactly do you think this is going to turn out differently than the CHAZ/CHOP fiasco, except in the clothing choices of the security people?
Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by lliamander on Friday May 21, 2021 @07:21PM (#27241180)
CHAZ folks were explicitly of the mindset of tearing down existing institutions in order to build a glorious future. Those folks seem to only be good at the first part.

Simply wanting to preserve one's life, liberty, and property and live in relative commity with one's neighbors does not generally lead to excessive violence and destruction.

Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by newacct583 on Friday May 21, 2021 @08:13PM (#27241702)
This is just yarn spinning. Stuff you like is good. Stuff you don't like is bad, and you fit the adjectives to the story. I dare say those hippies in Seattle were fans of your Lockian ideal too, they just used different words. And likewise trying to replace police with this private goon squad[1] looks an awful lot like "tearing down existing institutions" to people like me who think it's a shit idea.

That's not an argument, essentially. Words don't make truth. Either this trick is going to make people safer or it's going to get someone killed.

[1] See what I did there? Words are fun!

Re:Leaked emails show crime app Citizen is testing on-demand... by lliamander on Friday May 21, 2021 @08:17PM (#27241750)
> I dare say those hippies in Seattle were fans of your Lockian ideal too

Please don't confuse me for a student of Locke.

> And likewise trying to replace police with this private goon squad[1] looks an awful lot like "tearing down existing institutions" to people like me who think it's a shit idea.

Building UPS or Fedex is not the same thing as destroying USPS.