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Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by londons_explore on Friday May 21, 2021 @01:35PM (#27237171)
Good speech recognition generally requites massive mountains of training data, both labelled and unlabelled.

Massive mountains of data tends to be incompatible with opensource projects. Even Mozilla collecting user statistics is pretty controversial. Imagine someone like Mozilla trying to collect hundreds of voice clips from each of tens of millions of users!!

Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by marcodiego on Friday May 21, 2021 @01:39PM (#27237250)
Really complicated question, but considering the free world got wikipedia and openstreetmaps, I'd bet we'll find a way.
Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by JadeNB on Friday May 21, 2021 @04:06PM (#27239233)
> Really complicated question, but considering the free world got wikipedia and openstreetmaps, I'd bet we'll find a way.

Both of those involve entering data about external things. Asking people to share their own data is another thing entirely—I suspect most people, me included, are much more suspicious about that.

Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by sodality2 on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:02PM (#27237584)
> Imagine someone like Mozilla trying to collect hundreds of voice clips from each of tens of millions of users!!

They do, and it's working! https://commonvoice.mozilla.org/en

Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by londons_explore on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:34PM (#27238040)
Except they have 12k hours of audio, when really they could do with 12B hours of audio...
Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by woodson on Friday May 21, 2021 @03:57PM (#27239136)
Then you need a lot of people that listen to those 12B hours of audio, and multiple listeners agree for each chunk of audio that what is spoken corresponds to the transcript.
Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by londons_explore on Friday May 21, 2021 @05:51PM (#27240420)
Lots of machine learning systems can use unsupervised and semi-supervised learning. Then nobody has to listen to and annotate all that audio.
Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by woodson on Saturday May 22, 2021 @05:18PM (#27250353)
Yes, but then you don't need Mozilla collecting read speech samples. You can just scrape any audio out there, run speech activity detection, and there you go.
Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by sodality2 on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:36PM (#27238068)
Good point. I'm doing my part to contribute to it, though, not much else I can do!
Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by totetsu on Saturday May 22, 2021 @11:15AM (#27247325)
Didn't Moz fire all the people who worked on this, and they have started their own project now?
Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by GekkePrutser on Friday May 21, 2021 @06:27PM (#27240754)
Well speech recognition for personal use doesn't have to recognise everyone. In fact it's a feature, not a bug if it recognises only me as the user.
Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by posmonerd on Friday May 21, 2021 @01:56PM (#27237519)
Not an expert on any of this, but wouldn’t already published content (public or proprietary) such as Youtube videos, audiobooks, tv interviews, movies, tv programs, radio programs, podcasts, etc. be useful and exempt from privacy concerns?

Do user collected clips have soemthing so special to the point that it’s critical to collect them?

Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by eliaspro on Friday May 21, 2021 @03:23PM (#27238717)
Movies etc would need to be transcribed accurately to be useful for training and even then just provide a single sample for the specific item.
Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by timvisee on Friday May 21, 2021 @02:25PM (#27237932)
Another problem is that the models tend to get very very large for what I've seen. A gigabyte to 10s of gigabyes is an undesirable requirement on your local machine.
Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by kelnos on Friday May 21, 2021 @03:11PM (#27238560)
Not sure about others, but DeepSpeech also distributes a "lite" model that's much smaller and suitable for mobile devices. Not sure how its accuracy compares to the full model though.
Re:Voice2json: Offline speech and intent recognition on Linux by londons_explore on Friday May 21, 2021 @03:40PM (#27238930)
With insane amounts of computation, making models much smaller while having minimal impacts on performance is possible.