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Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by paulpauper on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:18AM (#27234246)
It is not a ponzi scheme because there is no centralized entity paying off later investors with earlier ones, but I would still not invest in it. Way better investments out there. Something can be a bad investment without being a ponzi scheme.
Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by phpnode on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:23AM (#27234335)
It's a naturally occurring, negative-sum pyramid scheme. All money extracted is coming from subsequent entrants to the scheme.
Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by AbrahamParangi on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:27AM (#27234384)
I wouldn’t say negative sum inherently. At least not any more than fiat is negative sum because you need to maintain a military to keep it around.
Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by phpnode on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:39AM (#27234557)
The purpose of a military is not solely to provide continuity for a currency, it is to provide security for the interests and inhabitants of a nation.

Also, regardless of any morality issues, having a military _creates value_ in a way that Bitcoin cannot. The employees of a military are paid, they spend their wages in the country's economy, they must be supplied with equipment which must be manufactured, those manufacturers & soldiers pay taxes, the enhanced security of a nation makes it less risky for investment and business growth etc etc.

Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by natmaka on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:47AM (#27234685)
The purpose of a military in part to provide continuity for a currency.

The employees of a military are paid... by taxpayers, who are the ones creating value.

Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by notahacker on Friday May 21, 2021 @11:02AM (#27234914)
Currencies can continue quite happily without notable military power in the absence of outside threats, whilst an absence of military in the presence of invaders tends to hinder taxpayers' ability to create value regardless of what currency they were paid in before the invasion.

Arguing that military exists for the purpose of protecting currency is akin to arguing that cryptographers exists for the purpose of protecting currency. Technically, that is one of the things they do [for cryptocurrencies and banks alike], but it'd be fairly ridiculous to claim that making cryptographers more useful was some sort of negative side effect of currency comparable to Bitcoin's energy use.

Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by natmaka on Friday May 21, 2021 @12:36PM (#27236296)
If you take for granted that a classic military force (threatening, and sometimes engaged in a war of aggression) is always necessary, then a way to suppress one of its mission is useless.

If you read some pretty authorized authors about it, let's say Smedley D. Butler ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket ), then having one and only one mission for the army (self-defense) may be a better way.

Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by phkahler on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:25AM (#27234364)
Pyramid != ponzi. And just because it's a distributed scheme with no central orchestrator doesnt mean it's not the same from the investors standpoint.
Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by threevox on Friday May 21, 2021 @07:13PM (#27241098)
Right, I think Ponzi is a more accurate potential criticism of crypto
Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by deschutes on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:20AM (#27234280)
Mince words all you want. It's a scam.
Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by pavel_lishin on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:22AM (#27234315)
Words matter.
Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by traloid on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:25AM (#27234354)
>words can mean anything i want them to mean
Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by BoiledCabbage on Friday May 21, 2021 @10:40AM (#27234574)
I keep reading that Tether is the ponzi in the ponzi-scheme.
Re:Bitcoin is 'a giant pyramid scheme,' says Pinboard founde... by idlewords on Saturday May 22, 2021 @06:02PM (#27250667)
That central entity is called Tether.