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Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by haram_masala on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:52PM (#27228918)
Not to be snarky, but isn’t every part of a successful organism an evolutionary marvel? If not, then perhaps a more interesting tale would be to look at the bodily systems that are substandard garbage. I’d probably start with the lower back.
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by Turing_Machine on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:06PM (#27229027)
The scrotum has all the marks of successive bad, hacky evolutionary patching.

Problem: Warm-bloodedness means the testicles are now too warm to work well.

Hack #1: Hang them on the outside of the body so they can stay cooler.

New problem resulting from first hack: Now they're much easier to damage.

Hack #2: Make them hurt really bad if they get bashed, so the owner takes great care to guard them.

The proper solution would have to make them more temperature-tolerant in the first place.

Interestingly, ovaries didn't go down this road, though there are certainly some suboptimal designs in that whole system as well.

Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by sebmellen on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:14PM (#27229069)
Don’t forget, they can also torse and twist (just like ovaries, I might add).
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by domino24 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:45PM (#27229637)
I guess we humans are still an evolutionary work in progress. :D
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by hypertele-Xii on Friday May 21, 2021 @09:53AM (#27233992)
Shudder to think what evolutionary completion looks like...
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by tibbydudeza on Friday May 21, 2021 @09:37AM (#27233804)
> Interestingly, ovaries didn't go down this road

A fixed quantity of viable eggs within prime child bearing years until menopause when women would then perform other roles within the community.

Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by the_af on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:30PM (#27229172)
> Not to be snarky, but isn’t every part of a successful organism an evolutionary marvel?

I prefer Stephen Jay Gould's point that lots of evolved subsystems are just kludges and jury-rigged solutions that just happen to work good enough, sort of. ("The Panda's Thumb").

Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by nuclearnice1 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:54PM (#27228935)
The back is a good one.

How about this design where you stuff food in the same hole you breathe through?

Seems so unnecessarily dangerous.

Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by AlotOfReading on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:15PM (#27229455)
You need mucus and it's a lot more convenient to dump it down the throat where it can pull double duty as lubricant and be recycled than have it come out the front all the time.
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by btgeekboy on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:58PM (#27228971)
> Seems so unnecessarily dangerous.

I agree, but it hasn't killed enough to evolutionarily matter.

Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by diamond_hands on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:01PM (#27229000)
It has for fish!
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by smegger001 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:20PM (#27229487)
Its worse for Squid their brain is a torus shape with its esophagus running through the middle. their brain cannot stretch but their esophagus can making it so that if a squid were to swallow to large of a bite it can rip their brain.
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by ekianjo on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:14PM (#27229073)
> Seems so unnecessarily dangerous.

It's not like there's no mitigation in place in the body itself.

Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by Turing_Machine on Thursday May 20, 2021 @11:24PM (#27230135)
Sure, but that's another hack.

Evolution's solution: cough it out

Better solution: don't send food, water, and air down the same pipe in the first place

I mean, no competent engineer would design the plumbing for a building such that the same pipes were used for water and air at different times, right?

Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by leetcrew on Thursday May 20, 2021 @11:42PM (#27230244)
a software engineer would. we call it "multiplexing".
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by nuclearnice1 on Friday May 28, 2021 @06:15PM (#27321157)
That reminds a bit of systems where the data plane and control plane are the same. Like the old AT&T phone network.
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by ekianjo on Friday May 21, 2021 @09:24AM (#27233678)
No its not just cough it out. The mechanism to avoid food and fluids is a lot more complex than that.
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by agumonkey on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:34PM (#27229193)
pee and reproduction too
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by tidenly on Thursday May 20, 2021 @10:00PM (#27229714)
I've read that urination actually helps by cleaning out the urethra after ejaculation, though, stopping some diseases - which some people think might be why men have the urge to pee often after sex. So it may not be as evolutionary crazy as one would think
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by fma on Friday May 21, 2021 @12:45AM (#27230595)
Same for women...

"In every final scan we could see a big, full bladder, even though most of the women went to the toilet before they went inside the MRI,” explains Pek with comical astonishment. “We think it might be evolution’s way to force women to urinate after sex. Perhaps our ancestors developed this function to avoid urinary tract infections, but that’s only a hypothesis."

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qvgkzw/the-story-of-the-dutc...

Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by rabidrat on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:04PM (#27229387)
wait until you hear about the cloaca
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by lioeters on Thursday May 20, 2021 @10:10PM (#27229771)
> A cloaca is the posterior orifice that serves as the only opening for the digestive, reproductive, and urinary tracts of many vertebrate animals.

> All amphibians, reptiles, birds, and a few mammals have this orifice, from which they excrete both urine and feces.

> Mating through the cloaca is known as cloacal copulation, commonly referred to as cloacal kiss.

> The cloacal region is also often associated with a secretory organ, the cloacal gland, which has been implicated in the scent-marking behavior of some reptiles, marsupials, amphibians, and monotremes.

Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by yakubin on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:02PM (#27229003)
Human pregnancy is not an evolutionary marvel. It brings disproportionately more suffering and is more dangerous to the mother than in other species.
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by taneq on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:18PM (#27229096)
All worth it for those extra few CCs of brain!
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by robotresearcher on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:42PM (#27229248)
Never forget which organ is telling you this.
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by samus on Friday May 21, 2021 @04:40AM (#27231764)
The size of the woman's pelvis actually restricts further evolutionary brain growth. Babies being unable to be born because of too big heads fits the very definition of an evolutionary deadend. Marsupials and eggs don't have that restriction (pun intended).
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by hypertele-Xii on Friday May 21, 2021 @09:51AM (#27233979)
Fortunately we can now bypass this dead end with cesarean section.
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by Noumenon72 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @10:33PM (#27229899)
After curing my lower back pain through weightlifting, it seems more like a well-designed system that just needs coordinated muscle use to protect. We just aren't in the conditions that teach us how to use gluteus medius, hamstrings, and torso rotation instinctively any more.
Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by Wowfunhappy on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:55PM (#27228947)
Given the comments here so far, I'd suggest the article's title be replaced with its subtitle:

> We have very little idea where anuses come from

This also more accurately describes what the article is about.

Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by Marsymars on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:06PM (#27229392)
From a 2001 issue of Scientific American, If Humans Were Built to Last: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12096406_If_Humans_...

(That 13-year-old me read at the time when I stumbled across it in my grandfather's study.)

Re:The anus is an evolutionary marvel by rajlego on Thursday May 20, 2021 @09:11PM (#27229428)
If you read some of John Sarno's stuff on psychosomatic pain, it seems highly plausible that most pain is just psychosomatic in nature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VyH1laOd2M good video on this