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Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by rhacker on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:12PM (#27228070)
I think the reason they think it's subsidizing the rich enclaves is because they believe the rich enclaves aren't really working - they're just generating revenue from information advantage. We're just building systems of control and making money from it. Compare that to them cleaning out a grain cart or chopping up a 300 pound pig. What is work? And why did I make nearly $300 today vs them who will make $300 for that pig that they had to raise for 6 months?
Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by _jal on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:28PM (#27228224)
> Compare that to them cleaning out a grain cart or chopping up a 300 pound pig.

Here is employment data on meat industry workers:

https://www.epi.org/blog/meat-and-poultry-worker-demographic...

Here is ag farming:

http://www.ncfh.org/facts-about-agricultural-workers.html

The people you are holding up as exemplars are not the people who hold the views you're discussing.

Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by AtlasBarfed on Thursday May 20, 2021 @11:54PM (#27230321)
Rent extraction in the information landscape?

You seem correct on that at least.

Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by bradleyjg on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:28PM (#27229160)
> And why did I make nearly $300 today vs them who will make $300 for that pig that they had to raise for 6 months?

Effort has little to do with value. Utility also has little to do with value. See the diamond/water paradox for that second part.

There are certainly abuses in our society, rent seeking and outright fraud exist. But this childish rejection of capitalism that’s become trendy lately is tiresome. Capitalism is a technology that lifted billions out of poverty. Brilliant, earnest people (as well as some very evil people) tried alternatives in the last century and they failed horribly. No one has proposed plausible alternatives.

By all means we ought to couple capitalism in the private sector with a robust public sector, but to be against capitalism at this point is to be against human flourishing.

Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by mr_toad on Thursday May 20, 2021 @11:07PM (#27230050)
> become trendy lately

It’s not a new phenomenon, or unique to America or the west.

You can dozens of passages of the bible critical of the merchants and money makers, and many of them are arguments still echoed today.

Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by rhacker on Friday May 21, 2021 @11:38PM (#27243173)
> this childish rejection

Insults don't get anyone far.

Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by bradleyjg on Saturday May 22, 2021 @05:16PM (#27250343)
Are you sure? Isn’t that the just world fallacy?