Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater Idaho'

Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by rhacker on Thursday May 20, 2021 @05:23PM (#27227477)

I own land in a rural area (house coming in maybe a year) and I have spoken to the neighbors. For the most part it's little things actually. Rules that the major cities deal with, like not being allowed to put up a specific kind of fence because the bureaucrats in the city look at .1 acre plots of land and don't like how certain fences look - where out here we're dealing with 5 to 100 acres (and in some cases a 40000 acres of land). Or that we should be required to pay "school fees" when we build a house because there's "no fucking school" out here! One guy had to dismantle a building he erected (he's a builder) because he maxed out on "how much roof" he can have.

There was one guy talking about Jesus but for the most part we're pretty sure he wasn't an anti-masker. Actually all of our neighbors have told us they wear a mask by the way. So yeah, it's really just getting away from the legal requirements that the populated places need but forget to loosen the rules far away.

Now every county is different so take my input as a grain of salt.

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Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by 0xB31B1B on Thursday May 20, 2021 @05:29PM (#27227548)

yea, thats not really the story in idaho/oregon area. A lot of the issue there is that lots of the land is owned by the federal government, and the people who live near by and are in ranching/mining/logging don't want to follow the rules the fed gov puts on operations in BLM land. There is a bit of "some guy 4k miles away in washington isn't allowed to tell me I can't ride my dirt bike here" attitude.

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Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by chrononaut on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:19PM (#27228686)

> Rules that the major cities deal with, like not being allowed to put up a specific kind of fence because the bureaucrats in the city look at .1 acre plots of land and don't like how certain fences look - where out here we're dealing with 5 to 100 acres (and in some cases a 40000 acres of land).

Wait, these rules aren't something that are enacted and enforced at an individual city / town level? These are state-wide zoning(?) rules being applied universally to all jurisdictions in the state? If so, that does seem obnoxious..

(I don't own land so I am very unfamiliar in how zoning regulation plays itself out, so apologies ahead of time.)

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Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by potta_coffee on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:51PM (#27229315)

Out here, those rules are enforced at the county level if there's no city nearby. Counties can be massive and include lots of out of the way land.

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Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by ed25519FUUU on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:14PM (#27228095)

> One guy had to dismantle a building he erected (he's a builder) because he maxed out on "how much roof" he can have.

Please tell me what part of the country this is so I can avoid it.

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Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by jpollock on Thursday May 20, 2021 @07:35PM (#27228794)

Floor Area Ratio regulations are pretty standard rules.

However, rules like these are "zoning/planning" and are usually set by the city or county, not the state.

The county shifting to Idaho is likely to have no effect on that regulation.

FAR's are why Palo Alto had to bring in regulations on basement sizes (the majority of the house was underground!), and why Zuckerberg is having problems with his renovation plans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floor_area_ratio

https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/31/palo-alto-zuckerberg-...

https://padailypost.com/2019/08/26/is-city-going-to-far-with...

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Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by R0b0t1 on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:15PM (#27229076)

It's meant to affect light so should not apply to basements. Finished basement area is still taxed in most counties.

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Re:Five Oregon counties vote to leave state, create 'Greater... by mensetmanusman on Thursday May 20, 2021 @06:29PM (#27228239)

If I were living in that state, I would build a fractal roof for my dog house that had close to an infinite surface area and then I would sue myself to teach people how dumb that rule is.

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