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Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by namdnay on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:42PM (#27213472)
Now give me a bit of slack here, because I'm arguing a position I don't necessarily 100% believe in, and I don't pay for youtube red myself. But your argument sounds a bit to me like someone saying "I think this supermarket takes a too big cut on these apples, maybe if they split the price 50-50 with the growers I'd be happy to pay, but as it is I think I'll just take them for free"
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by anticristi on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @04:00PM (#27213732)
While I do agree that I deprive Google of some revenue, not watching ads is not stealing. Otherwise, whole US would be in jail for going to the toilet during Friends commercials. :) Ad blockers simply automate that process for me.

I love supporting creators via Patreon. I hate feeding a giant that will any day turn against both creaters and viewers.

Not sure if I'm rationalising or defending creators.

Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by ipaddr on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @04:12PM (#27213857)
Your pretending to care about creators but giving them nothing. If you stopped visiting youtube but used other platforms and gave sure.. but it doesn't sound like that is happening.
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by anticristi on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @04:21PM (#27213973)
I'm not pretending. I support my favourite creators via Patreon. Feels more than "nothing". :)
Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by Silhouette on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @06:06PM (#27215142)
The arguments that blocking ads are somehow unethical or depriving a business providing a hosting service of its cut of ad revenue hold very little weight for me.

If a service wants to ensure viewers pay, it would be easy enough for any organisation with the resources to offer large-scale video hosting in the first place to put the content behind a paywall and earn revenue actively from giving access to that content. That way, access without paying would be more difficult and, in most places, probably illegal.

But these services typically don't do that. Why? Presumably they have made a decision that offering the content openly is in their interests, even if they then have to rely on passive revenue channels such as ads, affiliate/referral payments, or promoting associated brands.

In that case, I don't think they have much right to complain when a lot of people access the content they make freely available in legal ways but without contributing to indirect revenue streams when they have no obligation to do so.

Re:YouTube ads in Safari: you see them now, will you see the... by thrwawy12345 on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @03:59PM (#27213719)
Eh, it's more like the grocery store is firing apples off into public airspace, wrapped in invoices. Many people pay the invoiced amount but some don't.