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Re:Poor in Tech by watwut on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @01:28PM (#27211702)
Donald Trump is as high class as it gets. From upbringing to the way his career developed. To the people he socializes with.

> Being rich and well-connected for long periods ... which can persist even when the wealth doesn't, and continue to confer benefits. Preferring golf or tennis to say, bowling, doesn't necessarily come with a major difference in affordability. But being good at golf might help your career more than bowling

He was literally rich from the day he was born to old age. He was getting those benefits whole his life. He plays golf.

What he is not, is not being good person.

Re:Poor in Tech by fossuser on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @01:41PM (#27211873)
I think this is wrong and misses the point.

A lot of his political popularity is because while he’s rich, the way he speaks is “working class”.

He’s a good example of the difference we’re talking about.

Re:Poor in Tech by watwut on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @02:44PM (#27212693)
My point is, he speaks exactly how he learned to speak in environment of rich people.

He is not all that much how actual working class behaves. Instead, he is his how middle class imagines working class. And people who vote him are economically not the poorest either. And he is also what poor people imagine super rich to be.

Re:Poor in Tech by fossuser on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @11:32PM (#27217064)
Eh - I don’t agree, his rhetoric and the macho over confidence is similar to a lot of people I grew up with that support him (that are working class).
Re:Poor in Tech by rkk3 on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @05:07PM (#27214467)
Since when has a reality-tv career been considered high class.
Re:Poor in Tech by bumby on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @09:40PM (#27216443)
It’s high status in some circles that equate celebrity with prestige
Re:Poor in Tech by fossuser on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @11:30PM (#27217055)
That’s kind of case-in-point - it’s high status in low class circles.
Re:Poor in Tech by bumby on Thursday May 20, 2021 @08:52AM (#27220453)
Is this confusing wealth and class?

Your statement, worded differently, seems to read "it's high class in low class circles". Are you implying class is only appropriately defined only by those in high-class? I guess I was looking at it as social prestige regardless of who in the social strata assigns it. In other words, if enough 'low-class' people think you're high-class, you're by definition high-class.

Re:Poor in Tech by rkk3 on Monday May 24, 2021 @03:57PM (#27268973)
Class is defined by the members of each group. Non-members are by definition mostly ignorant of the groups' culture that they are not a part of. So they can recognize people are different from them, but not which group they belong to.

"low-class" people would not determine who is "high-class" any more than the "high-class" people determine who is "low-class".