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Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by jrwr on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @10:14AM (#27208918)
Overall, I would pick XMPP over Matrix at this point. it is rather bloated and the clients are a little bit obtuse for newbies. I do wonder what the DAU for Matrix is at this point. as I suspect that 32 Million number might be a little overstated.
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Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by Arathorn on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @10:49AM (#27209416)
frankly, as long as folks are communicating via open standards rather than being locked into some vendor silo then they should use whatever protocol works best for them - XMPP & Matrix bridge together fairly well these days.

Based on the phone-home stats in Synapse there's around 300K DAU currently on the network, but this is a major underestimate given other stats which suggest only about 30% of public servers enable phone-home.

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Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by haasn on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @11:12PM (#27216961)
> XMPP & Matrix bridge together fairly well these days.

I want to test this claim. After an hour of google searching I'm none the wiser:

1. Can I bridge private messages, or just MUCs? I use XMPP only to keep in contact with friends that use XMPP. I would love to integrate them into a single client, but afaict it does not appear possible.

2. Do I have to run my own XMPP bridge, or is there some automatic integration service I'm completely missing? For comparison, the experience of bridging a matrix room to IRC was as easy as clicking "add new bridge" in the Element UI.

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Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by zaik on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @12:01PM (#27210465)
> XMPP & Matrix bridge together fairly well these days

Does Matrix support OMEMO for e2e encryption?

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Re:Welcome to Libera Chat by Arathorn on Wednesday May 19, 2021 @01:38PM (#27211829)
Yup, OMEMO and Olm are bit compatible. In fact XEP-0384 went through a phase of recommending Olm as the implementation to use (grep https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0384.html for Olm).

(Although the bifrost bridge doesn't currently implement E2EE - and it would have to reencrypt anyway to turn the Matrix event payloads into XMPP stanzas and vice versa)

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